Aaron Rider
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Very simply because they were rushed understandably and botched the survey and just missed stuff. That's the reason. The great Tornado Talk article about this got pay walled.
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Significant Tornado Events
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Central Ohio Wx
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That's fair. I'm also sure they were probably focused more on Smithville to the northeast. Man, what a horrible day...
Aaron Rider
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Yeah. The Tornado Talk article said something like, "What we found was unbelievable."
I forget how far it tossed - NOT rolled - that one poor guy's truck. Well over a mile. Maybe two or three? It was preposterously far
Juliett Bravo Kilo
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Yeah, no doubt that thing was an EF5. Lynn Davis' pickup was tossed 1.70 miles, which to the best of my knowledge is the furthest verified distance a vehicle has been tossed by a tornado. The back of the truck was more or less accordioned into the front of it.
AJS
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It’s pretty rare to see cars get thrown over a mile by tornadoes and I consider it to be a hallmark of a remarkably intense one. Rochelle if I recall threw one about a mile
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I think this is the funnel video buckeye is referring to:
Here's another video, and yeah... this is definitely a tornado. No idea why it was classified as a downburst:
Nelsonville EF2 that preceded the Athens tornado:
Ivanthetornadoenthusiast
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Thanks
AJS
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“ EF3 “ damage from the Canton, TX 2017 tornado.
Union
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Aaron Rider
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Definitely a forgotten mini outbreak. Pecos Hank had an incredible chase. He helped rescue a sweet, tough lady whose gun he later found in his car after he dropped her off at the hospital. Pure, unadulterated Texas!
This system deserves more treatment, including a damage analysis of both major twisters.
A couple of years ago someone edited the Wikipedia article on the March 21 1952 tornado outbreak to follow Grazulis' rather than the official data (and at the same time turning it into a dog's breakfast aesthetically). I haven't seen anyone make a map of the differing interpretations of the outbreak, so why not do it myself?
The official data as plotted by Tornado Archive, is, as you'd expect, a mess, having been a victim of whatever process was used to convert the original reports into coordinates when the SPC/NCEI database was constructed:
Here I've more or less maintained the official paths, but tweaked them using descriptions in the March 1952 Climatological Data and (funnily enough) the older version of the Wikipedia article. I didn't try make everything tally - you can't fit a listed 12 mile path for stated endpoints only six miles apart. But everything is somewhat closer to where it probably should be, and pointing in the right direction:
This is based on Grazulis' 1984 and 1990 works. He joins up a lot of short paths that originally reported locations without path lengths or had implausibly short lengths (e.g 200 yards). Downgrades a few as well. Not all of his lengths fit - e.g. the stated start, path and end of the Moscow tornado implies a length of about 26 miles, not his stated 35:
One thing I've decided doing this is that the reports are so lacking in detail that many of the start and end locations, and the path lengths when those were not originally stated, in the official database must be little more than guesses, unless they had access to more detailed notes or other records when making it.
The official data as plotted by Tornado Archive, is, as you'd expect, a mess, having been a victim of whatever process was used to convert the original reports into coordinates when the SPC/NCEI database was constructed:
Here I've more or less maintained the official paths, but tweaked them using descriptions in the March 1952 Climatological Data and (funnily enough) the older version of the Wikipedia article. I didn't try make everything tally - you can't fit a listed 12 mile path for stated endpoints only six miles apart. But everything is somewhat closer to where it probably should be, and pointing in the right direction:
This is based on Grazulis' 1984 and 1990 works. He joins up a lot of short paths that originally reported locations without path lengths or had implausibly short lengths (e.g 200 yards). Downgrades a few as well. Not all of his lengths fit - e.g. the stated start, path and end of the Moscow tornado implies a length of about 26 miles, not his stated 35:
One thing I've decided doing this is that the reports are so lacking in detail that many of the start and end locations, and the path lengths when those were not originally stated, in the official database must be little more than guesses, unless they had access to more detailed notes or other records when making it.
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MNTornadoGuy
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3 days from now will be the 60th anniversary of the Twin Cities tornado outbreak. The Anoka County government has a GIS viewer containing aerial photographs of the damage produced by the Fridley tornadoes and here are a few notable ones.
Western_KS_Wx
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26 year anniversary of May 3, 1999 and I found some pretty incredible footage from that day uploaded to YouTube recently. The video is from Jeff Piotrowski’s DVD showing some never before seen video of the Bridge Creek-Moore tornado as it’s going through the OKC suburbs, as well as some footage of Mulhall. Some truly remarkable stuff in here.
Union
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Cardinal Road / Pritchett Road in the southwest area of Mayfield, homes here rated 180 despite looking pretty poorly constructed, possibly upgraded based on contextuals, rightfully so if true.
Large mature hardwood trees debranched and debarked, trucks were crushed and thrown, upwards of 1000ft (Red truck), smaller trees were completely mowed down, not the best documentation as it was a very small area, but the images and videos that exist are extreme.
Large mature hardwood trees debranched and debarked, trucks were crushed and thrown, upwards of 1000ft (Red truck), smaller trees were completely mowed down, not the best documentation as it was a very small area, but the images and videos that exist are extreme.
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AJS
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The SW side of Mayfield in general is where I consider the tornado to have maybe reached EF5 strength.
Lake Martin EF4
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OTD 26 years ago...
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May 3, 1999 — The Bridge Creek–Moore Tornado
These projects take an enormous amount of time and effort, but they don’t deserve to be stuck behind a paywall. If you’d like to support my work and ensure these stories remain accessible to all, p…
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AJS
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OTD 26 years ago...
May 3, 1999 — The Bridge Creek–Moore Tornado
These projects take an enormous amount of time and effort, but they don’t deserve to be stuck behind a paywall. If you’d like to support my work and ensure these stories remain accessible to all, p…
One of the most legendary tornadoes of all time.
Lake Martin EF4
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Yup. My #3 strongest of all time, only behind Tri-State and Piedmont.
AJS
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I doubt it’s too much of a controversial opinion, but I think Piedmont/El Reno 2011 produced the most extreme contextual damage seen in the EF scale era.
Western_KS_Wx
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Today is the 18th anniversary of the 2007 Greensburg EF5, so I figured I’d share a few more of the things I’ve got from that day.
Here’s an area that was completely devastated south of US-54, multiple homes were completely leveled or swept cleanly away. Contextual damage was extraordinary, debris granulation, total tree debarking, extreme vehicle damage, etc. The home pictured at bottom had significant damage to its concrete block foundation and porch walkway.
Perhaps most impressive, this large brick and masonry constructed church that had been converted to a home was essentially flattened to the ground.
More aerial photographs from neighborhoods north of US-54.
Some stuff from the southern part of town. The first image shows wind-rowing of debris towards the center of the vortex which passed 1/4 mile to the north, made visible by the scouring at the top of the image from right to left.
A home that was essentially wiped out of existence in a residential area of town. Note the low-lying vegetation completely stripped nearby.
Here’s an area that was completely devastated south of US-54, multiple homes were completely leveled or swept cleanly away. Contextual damage was extraordinary, debris granulation, total tree debarking, extreme vehicle damage, etc. The home pictured at bottom had significant damage to its concrete block foundation and porch walkway.
Perhaps most impressive, this large brick and masonry constructed church that had been converted to a home was essentially flattened to the ground.
More aerial photographs from neighborhoods north of US-54.
Some stuff from the southern part of town. The first image shows wind-rowing of debris towards the center of the vortex which passed 1/4 mile to the north, made visible by the scouring at the top of the image from right to left.
A home that was essentially wiped out of existence in a residential area of town. Note the low-lying vegetation completely stripped nearby.