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pds.jpegSat 2019-03-09 09z NAM looks crazy in OK north Texas and just moves it east through ARK, LA to TN and MS.

Or is this just a newbie misreading things?pds 2.jpeg
 

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Dang! The NAM is coming around as well!

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NAM STP from Sat 2019-03-09 09z thru Sun 2019-03-10 09z is showing TOR soundings in North Texas, SE OK, moving thru ARK and Northern LA into West TN and Northern 2/3rds of MS. I wish I knew how to make the animated gif and save it. But I would feel better if one of you seasoned guys took a look to see if it may be overplaying the conditions. It's showing some pretty high numbers on the STP.

ETA: My techy nerd self was able to make one after all. Does this look a bit overblown to you guys?

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I've noticed capping inversion around 800mb in N MS on many of the runs. I wonder if this will end up throwing a wrench in storm development in areas east of the current outlook (and southern sectors of the current outlook region) ... I think we got a lot of strong parameters in play here, but I see elements that make this a tricky forecast. I don't envy NWS/SPC that's for sure!
 
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Definitely a curveball on the 0Z models. HRRR and 12K NAM ratcheted things up big time depicting a very dangerous environment, while 3K NAM remains more subdued.
 

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A look at the HRRR, GFS, NAM, and RAP valid 21z tomorrow.

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NAM STP from Sat 2019-03-09 09z thru Sun 2019-03-10 09z is showing TOR soundings in North Texas, SE OK, moving thru ARK and Northern LA into West TN and Northern 2/3rds of MS. I wish I knew how to make the animated gif and save it. But I would feel better if one of you seasoned guys took a look to see if it may be overplaying the conditions. It's showing some pretty high numbers on the STP.

ETA: My techy nerd self was able to make one after all. Does this look a bit overblown to you guys?

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STP tells you there is a favorable environment, but it doesn't tell you whether there will be sustained convection in a favorable mode (discrete supercells) to utilize it to its fullest. Right now it appears to me the HRRR suggests there will be, while the 3K NAM shows things remaining weaker (not sure why).
 
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00z NSSL WRF is about what I've been expecting out of tomorrow. EML looks to come in a little stronger and forcing not able to overcome it in the morning. The result is increased instability and an overall more concerning severe weather threat for most of Mississippi and western Tennessee, NW Alabama.

Discrete/semi-discrete supercell modes look quite likely tomorrow.. Could be a pretty intense environment out there. More favorable track/timing is responsible for the uptick in kinematics.
 

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STP tells you there is a favorable environment, but it doesn't tell you whether there will be sustained convection in a favorable mode (discrete supercells) to utilize it to its fullest. Right now it appears to me the HRRR suggests there will be, while the 3K NAM shows things remaining weaker (not sure why).

Thanks! I thought it looked waaay worse than the discussions I have read.
 

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Jason WHNT on FB, chat shows the new model data with EHI 5-6 and he is very concerned if those do verify. All depends on the uncertainty in the morning rainfall. I still stand by what I posted with the numbers yesterday, With the new model data and the parameters going up and uncertainty with the morning cloud cover, I would suspect SPC will pull back further east and south on the new Day1 IMO. We'll see. I mean the NAM has a 991 and the new GFS has a 989. You cannot ignore that even if its in Northern MO.

We now have an 4.5 EHI and PDS Sounding at between Greenwood, MS to I-55 at 21Z Saturday

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