andyhb
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Wow that second pic from Dunlap is just total annihilation virtually. No surprise that 28 people died in that subdivision (presuming that’s Sunnyside Estates).
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I don't know if JR physically blocked Marshall from seeing certain areas of damage, but the E Wicker St EF5 candidate home was absolutely left out of his survey, and Marshall later said that he was not made aware of that particular house at the time of his survey of Vilonia.
I know I'm tooting my own horn here but see my previous postings on Palm Sunday 1965:I still don't get why all of the original 1965 Palm Sunday F5s were downgraded to F4s and yet tornadoes like the 1966 Belmond tornado were given an F5 rating.
Dunlap IN
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Pittsfield-Strongsville OH
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One underrated tornado is the 1883 Rochester tornado. It was extremely violent, entire farms literally vanished with debris being spread for miles, people were killed in cellars, a large steel railroad bridge was crumpled, debris from swept away homes in Rochester was granulated and wind-rowed, intense ground scouring occurred at multiple locations along the tornado's path, trees were completely debarked, several cornfields were literally swept clean and gravel ballast was scoured out.Rochester, MN F5 Tornado – August 21, 1883 – Tornado Talk
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I believe there was more extreme damage in Dodge and Western Olmsted County based on damage reports though the damage in north Rochester was not far behind in intensity.Yeah this was definitely one of the most violent tornadoes in Minnesota history, probably just second to Fergus Falls. One thing I learned about it recently, is that it’s path actually looped over itself in northern Rochester, similar to what happened in Moore 2013 near Moore Medical Center. The most extreme damage apparently occurred along this loop in the path.
This outbreak, along with 1884 Enigma, 1908 and 1920 Dixie Outbreaks are some of my most favorite to research, it's a shame it's so hard to find clear and reliable damage photographs. 1932 and the three others I mentioned seem to have the problem many older outbreaks do, in which photographs of the most extreme damage and hardest hit areas are hard to come by. The Cox-Union Grove, AL tornado was the deadliest in Alabama's history until Hackleburg in 2011.The March 21, 1932 tornado outbreak is considered to be a Super Outbreak by some. What was probably the strongest tornado of the outbreak was the Cox-Union Grove AL tornado. Despite hitting rural areas, it killed 49 people including entire families. A mile-wide swath of trees was downed and homes were swept away. This photograph from Union Grove shows leveled trees next to the empty foundation of a home.
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Especially for the 1920 Dixie outbreak, there is barely any information available online about it and it seems to have been overshadowed by the 1920 Palm Sunday outbreak. One of the tornadoes from the 1920 Dixie outbreak seems to have been similar to the 2011 Hackleburg tornado.This outbreak, along with 1884 Enigma, 1908 and 1920 Dixie Outbreaks are some of my most favorite to research, it's a shame it's so hard to find clear and reliable damage photographs. 1932 and the three others I mentioned seem to have the problem many older outbreaks do, in which photographs of the most extreme damage and hardest hit areas are hard to come by. The Cox-Union Grove, AL tornado was the deadliest in Alabama's history until Hackleburg in 2011.
Some more information on 1932 Dixie Outbreak:Here is a detailed study of the 1932 Deep South tornado outbreak. I don't have a ProQuest account so I can't access it but if anyone here has a ProQuest account you should check it out.Southeast U.S. Severe Thunderstorm Climatology and 1932 Tornado Outbreak - ProQuest
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Are those trees debarked? Hard to tell with the B&W photography.Another damage photo appears to be in the Warrior River area from the tornado that hit NorthportView attachment 5556
No they don't appear to beAre those trees debarked? Hard to tell with the B&W photography.
Especially for the 1920 Dixie outbreak, there is barely any information available online about it and it seems to have been overshadowed by the 1920 Palm Sunday outbreak. One of the tornadoes from the 1920 Dixie outbreak seems to have been similar to the 2011 Hackleburg tornado.
Addendum: that VLT tornado's path in MS went through Monroe County, which is where Smithville is located. An eyewitness description of the tornado describes it as looking like a giant cloud moving along the ground and a "fire" in front of the wind, perhaps the "fire" was actually "smoke" that was the big black wedge of the tornado beneath a low-hanging mesocyclone and clouds base? So yeah this thing was a clone in appearance to Hackleburg 2011 as well.The MWR on the 1920 Dixie Outbreak in 2 PDF files, not sure if I already showed this to you, but oh well:
1. https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/j..._1920_48_203b_tiema_2_0_co_2.xml?tab_body=pdf
2. https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/j..._1920_48_205_ttoaia_2_0_co_2.xml?tab_body=pdf
Yeah, one of the tornadoes followed a path through Alabama that was virtually identical to 2011 Hackleburg, the only difference is it started a bit farther south in MS before crossing the state line. There was another tornado in MS that went through Neshoba County and had a path extremely similar to the 2011 Philadelphia tornado.