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    Melissa

Significant Tornado Events

This. That is essentially why the tornado got rated EF5.

Honestly... during the 2013-2025 drought where EF5 ratings were dependent on an impossibly high construction standard, I don't think a single structure along the Hackleburg-Phil Campbell path would have passed EF5 muster. Pretty much all of the EF5-rated damage along the path may have (and probably would have) been nitpicked down to EF4. "CMU foundation", "not swept clean enough" or "not a valid DI" covers pretty much everything unfortunately - and that's exactly what went wrong with damage surveying for so long.

But during the EF scale's earlier years, it was indeed eligible for (and got rated) EF5. And post-Enderlin it would probably get that rating too.

Hopefully we're back on track.
It's been forever since I studied this but I do remember seeing some incredible damage pics here and there which were EF5 IMHO like broken and heaved slabs, larger chunks of structures including concrete sections being blown long distances, and some anchored structures but the vast majority of the path was EF4 and less. This outbreak and this tornado in particular we where I first took a deep dive into EF ratings, DI's, DOD's and the like to try and understand exactly what was what. I spent a huge amount of time going between pics, posted surveys, and the lists used to survey with and I am certain of my own thoughts being correct here.

Looking back a few years later the surveys were inconsistent, sometimes sporadic, and it seems the people doing it were stunned into a stupor or overwhelmed at times doing things too fast. In other words a lot was missed. I am absolutely NOT criticizing anyone for this as the known destruction was massive in the upper Alabama area and that had to be on their minds throughout. Anyone there who didn't have those feelings constantly interrupting their thoughts would not have a shred of humanity left in them. And there were noted instances where clean-up had begun before anyone even arrived on scene to survey.

Given the ever-decreasing resources available I don't think any of the worst tornadoes in this outbreak are worth a deep dive just to change ratings anymore. There's too much other work to do in places where the facts are better documented and would make for a better basis to study intently. There will always be debate with these tornadoes and the best we can do is hope and pray that it never happens again.
 
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Either the Lumpkin County EF2 or Lake Burton EF3
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Unknown tornado
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Tornado that moved through the Mulberry River and through I-65, if anyone could identify this tornado that’d be great
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“Tornado-007”, no other information is attached
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Birmingham tornado from the 17th floor of the Regions Herbert Plaza
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Unknown tornado
The tornado that crossed the Mulberry Fork River and I-65 is most likely Cordova
 
Mk, last major photo dump, I promise:
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Presumably the Tuscaloosa tornado
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Cullman
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Tuscaloosa
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Birmingham
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Birmingham tornado from the Corner area
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Tuscaloosa
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Cordova from the Sumiton area
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Ohatchee

Virtually zero of the images I’ve shared above have more than 1,000 views on Flickr.
 
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Tuscaloosa tornado seen from a window at the DCH; the tornado barely avoided hitting the building
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Hackleburg storm near Moulton
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Cullman tornado from Lake Guntersville
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Rainsville tornado near Fyffe
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Hackleburg tornado wall cloud near Hamilton
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Hackleburg tornado’s initial stage from the 292 Quenton Road property in Hamilton
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Hackleburg tornado near Harvest

More to come.
Have seen the last two, but the rest, brilliant finds!
 
Oh yeah, I've checked Flickr but their new restrictions are stupid so you barely view any images for 5 minutes without popups. I've found some stuff on there, but it is admittedly frustrating to skim through.
It's something I've noticed as well. Flickr treats you like garbage if you don't have an account (kind of like twitter under Musk, but that's a story for another thread.)

Fortunately, I do have an account I used to upload some photos of a dead mall a few years ago, so I can browse as normal. I've found a lot of Joplin stuff on there.
 
It's something I've noticed as well. Flickr treats you like garbage if you don't have an account (kind of like twitter under Musk, but that's a story for another thread.)

Fortunately, I do have an account I used to upload some photos of a dead mall a few years ago, so I can browse as normal. I've found a lot of Joplin stuff on there.
Yeah, i remember using Flickr last year and you could browse very freely. Suddenly, all these restrictions have been put on and it's VERY annoying to navigate. On top of the fact, my searching methods don't seem to work as much as they did....
 
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And this is probably the first event where we have location, size, direction and damage - March 17, 1752 in Calvert County, Maryland, moving southwest. "Blew down" buildings on a plantation with the collapse of a home, resulting in two deaths and two more injuries. Another tornado in the same county ten days later (mentioned at the bottom) "almost blew down" a strong brick-constructed building and cracked a gable.
This does make me somewhat curious, was this in the Pennsylvania Gazette? I know Benjamin Franklin was the publisher of that newspaper during the time.
 
EF5 damage in Vilonia.
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The remains of Wade Lentz's family home and vehicles:
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Ground scouring:
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Quarter embedded into a piece of wood:
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Steel beam from Vilonia Intermediate School wrapped around a debarked tree. The beam apparently traveled a mile and a half:
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EF5 damage in Vilonia.
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The remains of Wade Lentz's family home and vehicles:
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Ground scouring:
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Quarter embedded into a piece of wood:
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Steel beam from Vilonia Intermediate School wrapped around a debarked tree. The beam apparently traveled a mile and a half:
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The honorary 11th EF5. (Actually it's technically the 10th going by date, but eh.)
 
EF5 damage in Vilonia.
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The remains of Wade Lentz's family home and vehicles:
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Ground scouring:
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Quarter embedded into a piece of wood:
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Steel beam from Vilonia Intermediate School wrapped around a debarked tree. The beam apparently traveled a mile and a half:
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Which of these had DIs in the survey?
 
Which of these had DIs in the survey?
I'm 90% sure the first home is the infamous E Wicker St. home. The second one might be Marshall Rd S, but don't quote me on that, there's no picture attached on the DAT.

Wade Lentz's home, as well as the one on Beryl Rd, I know for a fact have no DIs.
 
EF5 damage in Vilonia.
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The remains of Wade Lentz's family home and vehicles:
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Ground scouring:
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Quarter embedded into a piece of wood:
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Steel beam from Vilonia Intermediate School wrapped around a debarked tree. The beam apparently traveled a mile and a half:
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RE: first picture

Can we talk about the fact that these folks are having a cookout, doubtless provided by friends and neighbors, on their slab that was once a home? That image shows the inherent goodness of the American people in a way that makes me kinda misty.
 
I believe this is potentially new footage that was randomly uploaded two months ago of Tuscaloosa. I really can't remember seeing this anywhere else on YT, FB or any other platform. It looks similar but if new, this is no doubt very intense footage. The incredible motion, horizontal vortices. These two were VERY close!


Unfortunately, it's just a reupload of an existing video:
 
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