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Two videos of Smithville when it was in the Shottsville, AL area after crossing the state line. As can be seen, it narrowed quite a bit but was still fairly strong:

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Another video of Smithville when it was in the Hamilton, Al area (heads up for annoying music):

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So this is pretty incredible. This video is of the birth of the Hackleburg tornado (or just it's early stages). I was a bit skeptical of this video as being genuinely of Hackleburg at first, but the video can be found on NWS Birmingham's table of the tornadoes of 2011 as "Hamilton Tornado" under the Phil Campbell-Hackleburg Event.

Source: https://www.weather.gov/bmx/tornadodb_2011 although you'll have to scroll a bit or do Ctrl+F "Hamilton tornado" to find it



 

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So this is pretty incredible. This video is of the birth of the Hackleburg tornado (or just it's early stages). I was a bit skeptical of this video as being genuinely of Hackleburg at first, but the video can be found on NWS Birmingham's table of the tornadoes of 2011 as "Hamilton Tornado" under the Phil Campbell-Hackleburg Event.

Source: https://www.weather.gov/bmx/tornadodb_2011 although you'll have to scroll a bit or do Ctrl+F "Hamilton tornado" to find it



That supercell had initiatied only 30 minutes before producing the tornado, a testament to how amazing that environment was. The supercell immediately began moving right within minutes of forming, took complete advantage of streamwise vorticity and the high shear and got organized so quickly. The intensity of the damage also appeared to be at it's greatest when the supercell's hook echo was not surrounded by any convection
 
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That supercell had initiatied only 30 minutes before producing the tornado, a testament to how amazing that environment was. The supercell immediately began moving right within minutes of forming, took complete advantage of streamwise vorticity and the high shear and got organized so quickly. The intensity of the damage also appeared to be at it's greatest when the supercell's hook echo was not surrounded by any convection
Many of the EF4s and EF5s that day intensified extremely rapidly, Smithville and Hackleburg it seems went multivortex very quickly and likely had the potential to level entire buildings within seconds of touching down.
 

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Many of the EF4s and EF5s that day intensified extremely rapidly, Smithville and Hackleburg it seems went multivortex very quickly and likely had the potential to level entire buildings within seconds of touching down.
I personally beg to differ. The shear parameters that day were so incredible that several tornadoes, such as Cordova and Tuscaloosa formed as their parent supercells were still developing, causing the tornado intensity to increase along with the parent cell. Cullman also did the same thing, Bridgeport too. Hackleburg also didn't intensify immediately. When tornadoes that day cycled from already mature supercells, such as Rainsville, Ringgold, Shoal Creek-Ohatchee, Barnesville GA, and Flat Rock, they almost immediately became violent.
 

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On May 7, 1927 one of the most extreme tornadic events in Kansas history would begin SW of Aetna KS. This family of at least two extremely large and violent tornadoes ranging from a half-mile to two miles in width devastated the countryside in Comanche, Barber, Kingman, Reno and McPherson counties. The damage this tornado produced was exceptional; trees of all sizes were completely debarked (many were reduced to just debarked stumps), entire farms were completely swept away (basically vanished) with debris being scattered for miles, automobiles and farm machinery was torn apart or mangled beyond recognition, low-lying shrubbery was stripped and uprooted, 300 pound cement slabs were blown 50 ft, a 5-ton Holt caterpillar tractor was rolled 100+ ft, a large steel bridge was carried 100 yards and destroyed, a large concrete silo was broken up into large pieces and leveled, crops were scoured and a schoolhouse disappeared without leaving a trace of it’s existence on the site. One of the most interesting examples of extreme damage produced by these tornado was listed by the local newspaper and confirmed by the Weather Bureau: "In the Thompson pasture heavily sodded with buffalo grass and native grasses, great holes were literally torn in the ground, the two largest being a foot in depth and some thirty feet long and twenty feet wide. The sod gives some idea of the tremendous pressure exerted by the wind."

Amazingly despite the extreme violence of the tornado the death total was rather low with 10 fatalities. The funnel was highly visible which allowed people to take shelter in time. The people who were killed by this monster tornado were horribly mutilated and completely plastered with mud.
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Storm cellar surrounded by downed trees.

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On May 7, 1927 one of the most extreme tornadic events in Kansas history would begin SW of Aetna KS. This family of at least two extremely large and violent tornadoes ranging from a half-mile to two miles in width devastated the countryside in Comanche, Barber, Kingman, Reno and McPherson counties. The damage this tornado produced was exceptional; trees of all sizes were completely debarked (many were reduced to just debarked stumps), entire farms were completely swept away (basically vanished) with debris being scattered for miles, automobiles and farm machinery was torn apart or mangled beyond recognition, low-lying shrubbery was stripped and uprooted, 300 pound cement slabs were blown 50 ft, a 5-ton Holt caterpillar tractor was rolled 100+ ft, a large steel bridge was carried 100 yards and destroyed, a large concrete silo was broken up into large pieces and leveled, crops were scoured and a schoolhouse disappeared without leaving a trace of it’s existence on the site. One of the most interesting examples of extreme damage produced by these tornado was listed by the local newspaper and confirmed by the Weather Bureau: "In the Thompson pasture heavily sodded with buffalo grass and native grasses, great holes were literally torn in the ground, the two largest being a foot in depth and some thirty feet long and twenty feet wide. The sod gives some idea of the tremendous pressure exerted by the wind."

Amazingly despite the extreme violence of the tornado the death total was rather low with 10 fatalities. The funnel was highly visible which allowed people to take shelter in time. The people who were killed by this monster tornado were horribly mutilated and completely plastered with mud.
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Storm cellar surrounded by downed trees.

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Sounds like a predecessor analog to the Greensburg event. Although they were cloaked in darkness, the radar signatures and the few observations available suggest that tornado at other points in its path as well as the others in the family were even stronger than the already EF5-rated damage in Greensburg indicated.
 
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So this is pretty incredible. This video is of the birth of the Hackleburg tornado (or just it's early stages). I was a bit skeptical of this video as being genuinely of Hackleburg at first, but the video can be found on NWS Birmingham's table of the tornadoes of 2011 as "Hamilton Tornado" under the Phil Campbell-Hackleburg Event.

Source: https://www.weather.gov/bmx/tornadodb_2011 although you'll have to scroll a bit or do Ctrl+F "Hamilton tornado" to find it




Wow, that is pretty much the holy grail of 4/27 footage. I always thought the formation of this tornado was one of those momentous events that went unseen and undocumented, as 33/40's Hamilton skycams were inoperable due to an Internet outage.
 
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Wow, that is pretty much the holy grail of 4/27 footage. I always thought the formation of this tornado was one of those momentous events that went unseen and undocumented, as 33/40's Hamilton skycams were inoperable due to an Internet outage.
Check this video out, at 1:45 the formation of it is shown. It's a synced view of the Hackleburg tornado.

 
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Wow, that is pretty much the holy grail of 4/27 footage. I always thought the formation of this tornado was one of those momentous events that went unseen and undocumented, as 33/40's Hamilton skycams were inoperable due to an Internet outage.
In fact, all 4 of the EF5s that day had their formations documented, mostly on mobile phones, I might add. Remarkable:

1. Philadelphia, MS:


2. Smithville, MS:


3. Hackleburg, AL:


4. Rainsville, AL:

 
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On May 7, 1927 one of the most extreme tornadic events in Kansas history would begin SW of Aetna KS. This family of at least two extremely large and violent tornadoes ranging from a half-mile to two miles in width devastated the countryside in Comanche, Barber, Kingman, Reno and McPherson counties. The damage this tornado produced was exceptional; trees of all sizes were completely debarked (many were reduced to just debarked stumps), entire farms were completely swept away (basically vanished) with debris being scattered for miles, automobiles and farm machinery was torn apart or mangled beyond recognition, low-lying shrubbery was stripped and uprooted, 300 pound cement slabs were blown 50 ft, a 5-ton Holt caterpillar tractor was rolled 100+ ft, a large steel bridge was carried 100 yards and destroyed, a large concrete silo was broken up into large pieces and leveled, crops were scoured and a schoolhouse disappeared without leaving a trace of it’s existence on the site. One of the most interesting examples of extreme damage produced by these tornado was listed by the local newspaper and confirmed by the Weather Bureau: "In the Thompson pasture heavily sodded with buffalo grass and native grasses, great holes were literally torn in the ground, the two largest being a foot in depth and some thirty feet long and twenty feet wide. The sod gives some idea of the tremendous pressure exerted by the wind."

Amazingly despite the extreme violence of the tornado the death total was rather low with 10 fatalities. The funnel was highly visible which allowed people to take shelter in time. The people who were killed by this monster tornado were horribly mutilated and completely plastered with mud.
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Storm cellar surrounded by downed trees.

View attachment 5636 Car mangled beyond recognition
1927 was quite a year for violent tornadoes. The same outbreak that spawned this tornado also spawned an F4 that devastated the community of Poplar Bluff, Missouri. On September 29 of 1927 St. Louis was struck by a tornado estimated to have been F3-F4. And in April Rocksprings, TX was utterly demolished by what was likely an F5 tornado (trying to find damage pics of that).
 

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1927 was quite a year for violent tornadoes. The same outbreak that spawned this tornado also spawned an F4 that devastated the community of Poplar Bluff, Missouri. On September 29 of 1927 St. Louis was struck by a tornado estimated to have been F3-F4. And in April Rocksprings, TX was utterly demolished by what was likely an F5 tornado (trying to find damage pics of that).
Personally I gotta disagree with the F5 rating for Rocksprings
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I'm thinking this pic of Smithville was taken around the same time and area of this video:

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That photo of the tornado was taken when it was over town as it's phenomenal intensity. I find it very interesting how the supercell was able to cycle so fast, radar clearly shows the occlusion of the Okolona, MS EF3 (which was likely an EF5 anyways) and a new mesocyclone formation. 1610800911909.png
 
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I think that some attention should be given to the EF3 that preceded Smithville. Satellite imagery revealed extensive swaths of ground scouring, and a photo of it shows a decent sized wedge, like Smithville was.

The Entire Track
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Zoomed in parts of the track
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The last part of the track revealed very intense scouring swaths
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The tornado itself
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Where did that pic of the tornado itself come from? Never seen that before.
 

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Personally I gotta disagree with the F5 rating for Rocksprings
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Hmmm idk about that conclusion. The reports of the damage in Rocksprinfs that I’ve read suggest an extremely violent tornado, with the worst damage occurring in residential areas of town. Apparently, some areas of neighborhoods were completely obliterated and swept away, with little debris recovered. The thing is, when the destruction is this complete, photographers may actually skip photographing these areas in favor of areas where there are still recognizable portions of buildings.
 

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Hmmm idk about that conclusion. The reports of the damage in Rocksprinfs that I’ve read suggest an extremely violent tornado, with the worst damage occurring in residential areas of town. Apparently, some areas of neighborhoods were completely obliterated and swept away, with little debris recovered. The thing is, when the destruction is this complete, photographers may actually skip photographing these areas in favor of areas where there are still recognizable portions of buildings.

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You can see intense damage in the background of this photograph.
 

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