csx1985
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Is there an article in which he states that he didn’t want to consider an upgrade? I was almost positive that he’d upgrade Vilonia.
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Significant Tornado Events
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Juliett Bravo Kilo
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locomusic01
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So, the database of aerial imagery on EarthExplorer looks to include a fair bit of stuff from the 2/21/71 Delta Outbreak - a lot of it taken just a couple of days after the event. It's a bit clunky and I haven't had time to explore it much yet so I'm not sure exactly how much of the outbreak area is covered, but here's the Evanna Plantation area of Cary, MS where over a dozen people were killed. It's very high-resolution so you'll have to zoom in to see much:
Btw, I did a bit of editing to bring out more detail but I didn't touch the colors - for some reason, some of the source images are just screwy like that.
Anywho, this other one is from the Delhi-Inverness tornado, specifically the little stretch of land between US-80 and Cornist Rd about halfway between Delhi and Waverly. This is roughly the area where 10 people were killed in one family, but I'm not sure if this is the specific property. Would like to research that at some point.
Btw, I did a bit of editing to bring out more detail but I didn't touch the colors - for some reason, some of the source images are just screwy like that.
Anywho, this other one is from the Delhi-Inverness tornado, specifically the little stretch of land between US-80 and Cornist Rd about halfway between Delhi and Waverly. This is roughly the area where 10 people were killed in one family, but I'm not sure if this is the specific property. Would like to research that at some point.
MNTornadoGuy
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TornadoTalk has an article on the LA portion of InvernessSo, the database of aerial imagery on EarthExplorer looks to include a fair bit of stuff from the 2/21/71 Delta Outbreak - a lot of it taken just a couple of days after the event. It's a bit clunky and I haven't had time to explore it much yet so I'm not sure exactly how much of the outbreak area is covered, but here's the Evanna Plantation area of Cary, MS where over a dozen people were killed. It's very high-resolution so you'll have to zoom in to see much:
Btw, I did a bit of editing to bring out more detail but I didn't touch the colors - for some reason, some of the source images are just screwy like that.
Anywho, this other one is from the Delhi-Inverness tornado, specifically the little stretch of land between US-80 and Cornist Rd about halfway between Delhi and Waverly. This is roughly the area where 10 people were killed in one family, but I'm not sure if this is the specific property. Would like to research that at some point.
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locomusic01
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Yeah, somebody mentioned it here the other day. It's on my reading list whenever I get around to renewing my subscription.
Marshal79344
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So I had a bit of free time on my hands and I kind of nerded out and mapped an event that I've always been interested in: The May 9th, 1933 Beatty Swamps, TN Tornado.
Turns out that Grazulis entirely screwed up the track. As opposed to moving NE as Grazulis stated, the tornado, in alignment with reanalysis data, was reported by local newspapers to have moved directly east. Newspapers have the tornado tracking for just 11 miles, but I bet that it tracked for longer than that given that there is very rural forest terrain directly east and west of the worst affected areas.
I've been trying to track down high-resolution photos for this thing for a while now but I still haven't succeeded which is kind of unfortunate, as the grainy images we do have show very impressive damage.
Turns out that Grazulis entirely screwed up the track. As opposed to moving NE as Grazulis stated, the tornado, in alignment with reanalysis data, was reported by local newspapers to have moved directly east. Newspapers have the tornado tracking for just 11 miles, but I bet that it tracked for longer than that given that there is very rural forest terrain directly east and west of the worst affected areas.
I've been trying to track down high-resolution photos for this thing for a while now but I still haven't succeeded which is kind of unfortunate, as the grainy images we do have show very impressive damage.
MNTornadoGuy
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Aerial imagery from Sayler Park. It swept away and leveled many homes along a narrow path.
Steel Central
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Depauw remains the worst documented F5 of that day
Juliett Bravo Kilo
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So, the database of aerial imagery on EarthExplorer looks to include a fair bit of stuff from the 2/21/71 Delta Outbreak - a lot of it taken just a couple of days after the event. It's a bit clunky and I haven't had time to explore it much yet so I'm not sure exactly how much of the outbreak area is covered, but here's the Evanna Plantation area of Cary, MS where over a dozen people were killed. It's very high-resolution so you'll have to zoom in to see much:
Btw, I did a bit of editing to bring out more detail but I didn't touch the colors - for some reason, some of the source images are just screwy like that.
Anywho, this other one is from the Delhi-Inverness tornado, specifically the little stretch of land between US-80 and Cornist Rd about halfway between Delhi and Waverly. This is roughly the area where 10 people were killed in one family, but I'm not sure if this is the specific property. Would like to research that at some point.
Stuff I got on it:
Significant Tornado Events
huh what changed? It went from being practically dead straight to being much more curved matching it’s actual track irl
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TornadoTalk also has a bunch of aerials that are declassified CIA imagery taken over the area months after the event; the gash of the tornado's core could be seen in a damaged pecan grove and some tree lines in the area. I wanted to post those photos bad but they had the TornadoTalk logo on them. So CIA aerials might be another area of interest for damage photos. Also, I'm still waiting on the part 2 for this tornado.
Juliett Bravo Kilo
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Have you been able to find anything on Guin with EarthExplorer?So, the database of aerial imagery on EarthExplorer looks to include a fair bit of stuff from the 2/21/71 Delta Outbreak - a lot of it taken just a couple of days after the event. It's a bit clunky and I haven't had time to explore it much yet so I'm not sure exactly how much of the outbreak area is covered, but here's the Evanna Plantation area of Cary, MS where over a dozen people were killed. It's very high-resolution so you'll have to zoom in to see much:
Btw, I did a bit of editing to bring out more detail but I didn't touch the colors - for some reason, some of the source images are just screwy like that.
Anywho, this other one is from the Delhi-Inverness tornado, specifically the little stretch of land between US-80 and Cornist Rd about halfway between Delhi and Waverly. This is roughly the area where 10 people were killed in one family, but I'm not sure if this is the specific property. Would like to research that at some point.
MNTornadoGuy
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Nope.
Lake Martin EF4
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Love how the map variously refers to the town both as Beatty Swamps and as Bethsaida.
Also man Grazzie really dropped the ball on this one didn't he. Makes me wonder how many other tornadoes got completely mislocated in Sigtor.
Juliett Bravo Kilo
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I think quite a bit, he also had some families erroneously listed as a single tornado. He also has one notable bit of a car in Texas that was apparently thrown 1000 miles by a tornado lol. Although, when you're compiling info on 10,000+ tornadoes mistakes like that are inevitable.
Lake Martin EF4
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What's that, like, F75?
Juliett Bravo Kilo
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New scale proposal:
F0-F5: Regular tornadoes
F6-F100: Super-tornadoes
F-100-F1000: Mega-tornadoes
F-1000+: Cosmic, universe-destroying tornadoes
Western_KS_Wx
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Took a crack at this tornado tier list and listed the ones that were available from 1971-present, and got absolutely murdered on Twitter. I’m interested in what you guys’ opinions are so feel free.
Most of the pot was stirred over Mulhall, while a very violent tornado I have yet to see F5/EF5 damage both contextual and structurally from the event and the aerial scar wasn’t as pronounced as say the Dover F4 for example, which I believe to be stronger than Mulhall. Also got some claims Smithville had winds barely over 200mph, which is…something. Anywho, feel free to share your opinions.
Most of the pot was stirred over Mulhall, while a very violent tornado I have yet to see F5/EF5 damage both contextual and structurally from the event and the aerial scar wasn’t as pronounced as say the Dover F4 for example, which I believe to be stronger than Mulhall. Also got some claims Smithville had winds barely over 200mph, which is…something. Anywho, feel free to share your opinions.
tornado examiner
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That whole take on smithville is so beyond daft. So what if we don’t have any direct measurements…the feats alone that are attributed to smithville are far and away enough to put it at the top three most powerful tornadoes recorded at least.
Sawmaster
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Consider vthe place and the people. Twitter value is like Amazon stars; essentially meaningless at best and usually very wrong. But part of it's on you- there is nothing above F5 or EF5 and when you even allude to otherwise you're shooting yourself in the foot by losing the knowledgeable in the audience. You're assigning windspeeds you nor anyone else knows for certain, again not good approach.
I mostly agree but the further I go the less sure I am that Jarrell was of highest strength.
I mostly agree but the further I go the less sure I am that Jarrell was of highest strength.
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Guess I should say that I don't plan on making my own version, though I'll probably deja-vu again, like when I said I wouldn't make an 'every state's strongest tornado' map and made one anyway...
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I made mine out of sheer boredom, which looking back, huge mistake lol. Yeah I have no clue what a AF is but anyways I was pretty on the fence about Vilonia and Ohatchee and they could go either way imo.