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A lot of those images remind me of Moore ‘13, I think those two tornadoes reached a similar intensity and are pretty comparable. As for Andover I’m leaning towards it was probably the strongest tornado during that outbreak, some of the feats of damage it accomplished were some of the most impressive I’ve seen. However with Red Rock traversing such rural areas and it’s full potential being unknown it makes you wonder what would’ve happened if the roles were reversed.
Some of the photos from around McConnell AFB are eerily reminiscent of Moore Medical Center, with parts of vehicles scattered all around and a thick coat of mud splattered over absolutely everything. One photo that I wish I could find again showed a new Humvee all torn up and basically folded in half, which was pretty striking.

The giant oil rig and asphalt scouring from Red Rock lead me to believe it was probably the most violent of the outbreak, or its intensity was on par with Andover's. I don't think pavement/asphalt scouring happened with Andover, or at least I haven't been able to find pics of it. Red Rock's path length and duration is about the same as El Reno's as well.
I'm not sure that asphalt scouring is always as impressive as it sounds. Especially in rural areas, lots of roads aren't in great shape and often have a pretty thin top layer of asphalt, which probably wouldn't take a huge amount of force to peel up. Still potentially suggestive of a strong/violent tornado, but not necessarily anything super high-end.

Never seen color photos of the oil spill before, nice find! Was the rest of its path pretty much open plains country once it exited Andover?
More or less. The area around Towanda was a little more built up but it had already started weakening by that point.
 
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Some of the photos from around McConnell AFB are eerily reminiscent of Moore Medical Center, with parts of vehicles scattered all around and a thick coat of mud splattered over absolutely everything. One photo that I wish I could find again showed a new Humvee all torn up and basically folded in half, which was pretty striking.


I'm not sure that asphalt scouring is always as impressive as it sounds. Especially in rural areas, lots of roads aren't in great shape and often have a pretty thin top layer of asphalt, which probably wouldn't take a huge amount of force to peel up. Still potentially suggestive of a strong/violent tornado, but not necessarily anything super high-end.


More or less. The area around Towanda was a little more built up but it had already started weakening by that point.
I think this documentary may have a clip of that Humvee near the hospital on base:


Or this video:


My bad, the 2nd video has raw footage of aftermath on base, with a mud-spattered building. I think the Humvee is in the clip somewhere but the poor video quality makes it hard to tell.
 

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I think this documentary may have a clip of that Humvee near the hospital on base:


Or this video:


My bad, the 2nd video has raw footage of aftermath on base, with a mud-spattered building. I think the Humvee is in the clip somewhere but the poor video quality makes it hard to tell.
Yeah, it's visible in different shots in a few of the news specials. IIRC it was near the base hospital, in the same general area where these were taken:

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Yeah, it's visible in different shots in a few of the news specials. IIRC it was near the base hospital, in the same general area where these were taken:

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Oh yeah this image has come on the thread before, I thought it was taken near Andover high school or something, as the tornado was only at F3 intensity while on the base (unless it did have some F4/5 damage on base I don't know about). I couldn't tell what kind of vehicle it was, let alone a Humvee. It looks like it's what happened to that truck near St. John's in Joplin, bent right at the frame and wrapped around a tree.
 

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you said your mapping moore 13' and joplin right?
I’ve had them saved in the files for about a year now, Moore was finished, Joplin was at the EF4 contour, but if I were to go back and redo them I’d probably just scrap both of the originals because they’re not very good at all lol. Pretty much what I did for Tuscaloosa.
And the Greensburg event!
Greensburg is pretty much complete just need to go back and fix some things, probably after Tuscaloosa is finished.
 
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I’ve had them saved in the files for about a year now, Moore was finished, Joplin was at the EF4 contour, but if I were to go back and redo them I’d probably just scrap both of the originals because they’re not very good at all lol. Pretty much what I did for Tuscaloosa.

Greensburg is pretty much complete just need to go back and fix some things, probably after Tuscaloosa is finished.
cant wait to see greensburg. cause there's already quite a few high quality maps for moore 13. cant wait for joplin as well. i've never seen anyone do a detailed map for joplin.
 

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cant wait to see greensburg. cause there's already quite a few high quality maps for moore 13. cant wait for joplin as well. i've never seen anyone do a detailed map for joplin.
Tim Marshall's survey paper includes a full contour map + rating for every home, although it's split across a few pages and kinda looks like a 5-year-old drew it lol

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cant wait to see greensburg. cause there's already quite a few high quality maps for moore 13. cant wait for joplin as well. i've never seen anyone do a detailed map for joplin.
The Greensburg event is just the ‘Big 4’ for now and except for residential areas of Greensburg it doesn’t include any really detailed damage maps. As for Tuscaloosa and Greensburg they will for sure be released this month however I’d still call Mayfield a work in progress.
Tim Marshall's survey paper includes a full contour map + rating for every home, although it's split across a few pages and kinda looks like a 5-year-old drew it lol

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Tim’s house by house damage rating was really detrimental to providing an accurate map for Tuscaloosa-Birmingham, I didn’t entirely base the contours off his map alone there were many other factors, but his survey papers are really helpful.
 
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I’ve had them saved in the files for about a year now, Moore was finished, Joplin was at the EF4 contour, but if I were to go back and redo them I’d probably just scrap both of the originals because they’re not very good at all lol. Pretty much what I did for Tuscaloosa.

Greensburg is pretty much complete just need to go back and fix some things, probably after Tuscaloosa is finished.
Oh! Speaking of giant Kansas wedges, I know there is photos+video of the 2007 and 2012 Trousdale tornadoes, but are there any of the 2008 one? Apparently Greg Stumpf was on that cell from Greensburg all the way up to St. John, and it crossed a highway near Belpre so it wasn't totally out in the boondocks.

Also the Buttermilk tornado but that thing was in basically a giant field with no civilization anywhere near so any photos are unlikely to say the least.
 

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Oh! Speaking of giant Kansas wedges, I know there is photos+video of the 2007 and 2012 Trousdale tornadoes, but are there any of the 2008 one? Apparently Greg Stumpf was on that cell from Greensburg all the way up to St. John, and it crossed a highway near Belpre so it wasn't totally out in the boondocks.

Also the Buttermilk tornado but that thing was in basically a giant field with no civilization anywhere near so any photos are unlikely to say the least.
So far from almost hours of digging through the very depths of the internet I haven’t found any photos or videos from the 2008 Trousdale wedge, it occurred at night and was probably rainwrapped and huge like the Clark State Lake megawedge from the same family. Buttermilk would’ve been almost impossible to chase or photograph because it literally occurred in the middle of no where lol. While on the topic of the Buttermilk EF3, I’ve got to say I was really impressed by the damage it left behind, there was pretty clear ground scouring visible on aerial imagery even a month after the tornado. The tree and vehicle damage descriptions are on par with Quinter as well. I’d say Quinter, Clark State Lake, and Buttermilk were probably the top 3 most intense on May 23.
 

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Please help I have no life (AKA I Tried To Draw The Atlantic Tornado From Memory In Google My Maps)
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EDIT: Close up. This would probably be an even more notable event lol
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Yeah that would've been bad news lol. Straight through downtown (or what passes for "downtown") Jamestown, Atlantic, Cochranton and Dempseytown instead of barely clipping them. Honestly not that far off though!
 

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In between working on New Richmond, I've been slowly trying to finish mapping out the other events I've covered so far. Just recently added the 7/6/1893 Pomeroy, IA F5:

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Which, incidentally, was also my first (rather crude) attempt at mapping a tornado track back in the day:

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I need to do Palm Sunday at some point, but that's.. a bit of a project. My Flint-Worcester map really needs to be reworked as well. Maybe some day.
 

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