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2025 Political Thread

Meanwhile, on the Epstein front...

Wyden has been focusing on the financial angle, of course. Here's a little coverage from Portland's NBC affiliate in July:


 
And in terms of Venezuela, things are looking more and more like the early times of US involvement in Vietnam. Sigh.
 
Yes. The word, "Fake." It doesn't even come close to the MTG video fakery earlier this year.

It looks terribly fake, but it is real. The part conspicuously left out of the above post was that Rep. Taylor immediately denounced it and requested an investigation from Capitol police.

It likely got there from either an idiot staffer that will be fired or someone who was trying to set Taylor up.
 
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I'd like to see tens of millions of people out there this Saturday, holding "Impeach Trump" signs,

For every negative there should be a positive.

I do think the current POTUS should be impeached for taking too much power and, if it falls under the "offense" category, for encouraging divisiveness and being way too partisan -- for not being the whole country's CEO, i.e., failure as a leader and manager.

A little investigation would probably reveal shenanigans, too -- something that can be said about most administrations but perhaps more so with this one, particularly in international dealings.

That said, Mike commented that Trump has done some good things. Danged if I can see them right off the bat, but I'm going to look for them (and hope Mike and others might share their views, too).

1. It's probably backhanded but nonetheless a compliment that this all must have shown many progressives and other left-of-center types that there are other points of view in this country. Ignoring, ridiculing, and otherwise invalidating them for your own benefit is how you get more Trump. This is bad. Accepting others is good, and finding areas of mutual agreement -- not even a concept to many people over the last half-century or so, rather than point/counterpoint shouting -- would be even better.

2. We are in a bad financial way as a nation and Trump is doing something, which is more than past administrations and Congresses recently have been capable of.

3. I like his emphasis on US workers. Biden's "Let them learn to code," in reference to the pipeline workers really sucked.

Gah! My head hurts! ;)
 
That said, Mike commented that Trump has done some good things. Danged if I can see them right off the bat, but I'm going to look for them (and hope Mike and others might share their views, too).

Try as they might to discredit his role, Trump played a huge role in the Israeli/Hamas ceasefire/hostage exchange. My dislike for him won't cloud my judgement when he does something positive.

In other news, when is anyone other than a Republican going to call out Jay Jones? I've been sick for a couple of days, so maybe someone has and I missed it, but the silence from the left has been deafening.
 
How crazy has politics become in this country? The left is mad at Trump because CBS hired a left-leaning centrist bisexual woman to run the company.
Where are you seeing this? I'm not seeing any news sources that are making a connection there, at least from sources that aren't blatantly biased.
 
Where are you seeing this? I'm not seeing any news sources that are making a connection there, at least from sources that aren't blatantly biased.

I've seen several comment on social media, real accounts, not bots, about how CBS should not have hired this person and are blaming Trump for putting pressure on CBS.

I never even heard of the woman. I had to google her to find out anything about her.
 
Try as they might to discredit his role, Trump played a huge role in the Israeli/Hamas ceasefire/hostage exchange. My dislike for him won't cloud my judgement when he does something positive.

In other news, when is anyone other than a Republican going to call out Jay Jones? I've been sick for a couple of days, so maybe someone has and I missed it, but the silence from the left has been deafening.
 
I did not hear about any major incidents during Saturday’s No Kings protests. I don’t know if these protests will do much but I’m glad for the most part they were peaceful. I also heard eighteen other countries had No Kings protests as well.
 
I did not hear about any major incidents during Saturday’s No Kings protests. I don’t know if these protests will do much but I’m glad for the most part they were peaceful. I also heard eighteen other countries had No Kings protests as well.

It appears to have been bigger than June's, but there are no "Impeach Trump" signs in the photos I've seen -- I don't attend protests because it's too hard right now, but that's what I would have brought because that's what we as a nation really need and this Congress isn't going to do it for real -- and many signs and associated speeches and quotes were the usual leftist whoo-hah.

Probably, though, the large numbers can also be attributed to another conjunction of popular frustration and an organized venue.

Best sign, IMO:



The only hate I've seen came from social media posts by Trump and Vance, and the predictable Blueskyer reaction.

This No-Kings day is a disappointment, mainly because it will swell support for next year's national socialism Democrat takeover of Congress.

That's no good because it's just dodging the fundamental problems.

But neither is the current cult-like acquiescence of Congressional and other leading Republicans to the Trumpeteers. Nor is it good for leftists to be doing the same old putting down of their political opposites, or for centrists and right-of-center folks to be unrealistically fearing violence (given the aforementioned leftist dumping and the Kirk shooting recently, plus the tons of administration rhetoric and disinformation, that's not at all irrational, but it does feed into the "dehumanization of The Other" that really underlies us all, regardless of POV, and causes so much of our troubles today).

Left needs to see Right's point of view and vice versa. How?

???

When younger minds with better vision finally push us Boomers -- greedy and bipolar as always, and now also stupidified or demented or both -- off the controls for good, I think they will have come by a Grand Old Party path, though.
 
I don't have a problem with a protest, but No Kings is protesting something that doesn't exist in this country, nor will it.

A list of executive orders issued by Presidents:

FDR - Democrat - 3,721
Wilson - Democrat - 1,803
Coolidge - Republican - 1,203
T. Roosevelt - Republican - 1,081

More recent EO's:

Donald Trump - No Real Moral Or Ideological Foundation - 429 and counting
Ronald Reagan - Republican - 381
Bill Clinton - Democrat - 364
Jimmy Carter - Democrat - 320
Dubya - Republican - 291
Obama - Democrat - 276

It is only protest worthy when Trump does it. I hate having to defend the guy as I truly detest the man, but he's getting the exact reactions he craves.
 
FDR - Democrat - 3,721
FDR was also president for 12 years, so he will statistically have more executive orders than other presidents.

One reason people are protesting is because Trump has signed 210 EOs since January. Compare that to past presidents, where it would fit in, however we aren’t even a year into his second presidency, and his one-year number is comparable to other recent president’s four-year numbers.

He also signs in objectively non-beneficial stuff often, like re-defining the term “showerhead” and renaming the Gulf of Mexico. It’s an abuse of the EO function.
 
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FDR was also president for 12 years, so he will statistically have more executive orders than other presidents.

One reason people are protesting is because Trump has signed 210 EOs since January. Compare that to past presidents, where it would fit in, however we aren’t even a year into his second presidency, and his one-year number is comparable to other recent president’s four-year numbers.

He also signs in objectively non-beneficial stuff often, like re-defining the term “showerhead” and renaming the Gulf of Mexico. It’s an abuse of the EO function.

I'm not disagreeing he's abusing it. People complained about him using it in his first term as well, and those numbers were in line with recent presidents.

If he's still president in January 2029, then I'll be concerned.
 
FDR - Democrat - 3,721
Wilson - Democrat - 1,803
Coolidge - Republican - 1,203
T. Roosevelt - Republican - 1,081

More recent EO's:

Donald Trump - No Real Moral Or Ideological Foundation - 429 and counting
Ronald Reagan - Republican - 381
Bill Clinton - Democrat - 364
Jimmy Carter - Democrat - 320
Dubya - Republican - 291
Obama - Democrat - 276

It is only protest worthy when Trump does it. I hate having to defend the guy as I truly detest the man, but he's getting the exact reactions he craves.

Thanks for those counts.

Prior to the 2024 election I had read on Instapundit criticism of Obama for abusing EOs and wondered how he measured up to the current POTUS.

But numbers aren't everything: content counts. I'd have to look up Obama's to see if the Instapundit criticism was valid, but as for Trump, I think people are scared now because he is grabbing powers that have never been wielded by the Executive Branch in peacetime and justifying authoritarian moves with "emergencies" that don't really exist (although national media coverage makes it hard to see that fact for everyone but the locals who can actually look out the window).

Contrast H. Bush's valid and VERY cautious deployment of the Guard during the Rodney King riots, which was big news at the time (the deployment) with Trump's LA deployments and accompanying vicious rhetoric this year.

(And with the Biden do-nothing/media "look the other way" approaches to the George Floyd riots. That was disgusting.)

I'd agree with "only when Trump does it" for his first term, but not now.

This isn't the same Trump, as I've said before, and it really does feel like a soft coup. By kings in all but name: a group of businessmen -- nameless thus far but probably fairly well represented on Epstein's client list and/or pals of the UK's Prince Andrew (in the Nineties I read an article praising Andrew's connection with international businessmen; this, while Brother Charles was actually raking in the cash by being a businessman) -- running what historians may well label as Business Plot 2.0 (unless the kings $ucceed, in which case it will be either a "revolution" or the "saving of Old America" by establishment of an enforced New USA service economy in which most of us, from the southern tip of Patagonia to the northernmost tip of Canada or Greenland, whichever is closest to the pole, will be the servants, regardless of ethnic background).

And New USA will have an excellent relationship with Greater Russia, extending from Iceland and Northern Africa through Asia Minor to Kamchatka and as far south in central and eastern Asia as New China will tolerate.

No more war. No more population boom (they won't kill us off; they'll keep us divided and killing off each other). Utopia.

Not a dystopic-novel concept. i really think that's the end game, though it won't work and what will really happen is another Tower of Babel crash.

Sorry. Got carried away again. I'm trying not to do that, but I see it -- instead of, hopefully, the "cheat-the-prophet game" that younger people now are playing until the last Boomer is buried nicely -- and I can't help sounding off.

If those younger people are playing the game well, I won't ever see it. So I might as well just stop caring and just meditate and let it all go...which isn't a bad idea, actually.
 
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