Regardless of construction, the contextual evidence speaks volumes, no doubt about it.Ignoring that particular slab for a second, the way it stumped that tree nearby is incredible, especially since it was relatively out in the open.
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Regardless of construction, the contextual evidence speaks volumes, no doubt about it.Ignoring that particular slab for a second, the way it stumped that tree nearby is incredible, especially since it was relatively out in the open.
I hope it did save lives last night, but encouraging people to evacuate in advance of an approaching tornado, especially in heavily populated areas, is way too risky. I can't forget about how close Oklahoma City came to having an epic disaster on May 31, 2013 because a certain TV meteorologist ordered hordes of viewers to evacuate south, and the traffic jam that resulted.
I hope it did save lives last night, but encouraging people to evacuate in advance of an approaching tornado, especially in heavily populated areas, is way too risky. I can't forget about how close Oklahoma City came to having an epic disaster on May 31, 2013 because a certain TV meteorologist ordered hordes of viewers to evacuate south, and the traffic jam that resulted.
Very curious what "evacuations" entailed in this case. Like, if we're talking people heading to designated shelters well in advance of a storm or something I totally get it. If not, yikes.
Here what's left of my nephew's home on Stateline RD (county Rd 655 I believe.) Southeast of Hornersville. Extremely lucky this thing missed that town. Only like 800 people there, it's where my wife is from. It would have been blown down, never rebuilt. I'm sure of it. Crazy it left the door standing.I don't think that tornado struck many towns directly, thankfully. It kind of grazed Monette and Leachville and then spent a long time over sparsely populated areas before splitting the uprights between Hayti and Caruthersville. At least that's what I'm hoping given the relative lack of damage photos coming out of there.
There are certainly situations were evacuation is essential for survival and I'm glad you were easily able to make it to safety, but would you feel the same way if the Dayton metro were evacuating en masse? I'm concerned that the idea of evacuating ahead of a tornado catches on to the point where not only does it become unproductive, but a massive hazard in and of itself. It's an incredibly tricky subject.Evacuation is a tricky call to make, and one that has to be made quickly and strategically. In situations where there’s a very clear and consistent path, an easily accessible escape route that dives due south or north with little traffic, and a violent tornado imminent, it can be worth it. I made this call with the Dayton EF4, and would do it again should a similar situation arise.
Yeah if there’s even a chance of hitting a traffic jam, then it’s a terrible idea. But when I did it, I-675 was about as empty as I have ever seen it. Everyone was either asleep or sheltering in their homes. The Dayton metro hadn’t been hit by an EF3+ since 1969 (I don’t count Xenia), so I think evacuating wasn’t even an option that crossed anyone’s mind.There are certainly situations were evacuation is essential for survival and I'm glad you were easily able to make it to safety, but would you feel the same way if the Dayton metro were evacuating en masse? I'm concerned that the idea of evacuating ahead of a tornado catches on to the point where not only does it become unproductive, but and massive hazard in and of itself. It's an incredibly tricky subject.
I believe this is the property on Google Maps. If so, it kinda looks like the second foundation is a pole barn or garage. Not sure if that necessarily changes anything rating-wise, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to different kinds of structures and the EF ratings.Ignoring the foundation on the right, there is this large foundation:
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Assuming it was a well anchored home, it could very well be EF5 damage. Hence lies the problem with trying to rate a tornado based on a single aerial photo. Regardless of whether it was a well anchored home or not, the wind rowing/ground scouring is pretty incredible.
Yeah was just about to say, that looks like a garage or outbuilding slab. That means the highest possible rating that could be applied there would be EF2.I believe this is the property on Google Maps. If so, it kinda looks like the second foundation is a pole barn or garage. Not sure if that necessarily changes anything rating-wise, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to different kinds of structures and the EF ratings.
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Yeah if there’s even a chance of hitting a traffic jam, then it’s a terrible idea. But when I did it, I-675 was about as empty as I have ever seen it. Everyone was either asleep or sheltering in their homes. The Dayton metro hadn’t been hit by an EF3+ since 1969 (I don’t count Xenia), so I think evacuating wasn’t even an option that crossed anyone’s mind.
A lesson to be taken away forecasting wise: never trust the models to handle surface winds well when a deepening surface low is depicted.
So much intensity, skepticism, weirdness, and focus on whether or not a tornado will be rated EF-5 should be proof enough there's definite issues with the current ratings process. JMO.
Hopefully community shelters will become ubiquitous and personal ones will become more affordable.Given ample time, it can be an easy call if traffic isn’t an issue and you know what you are doing. Similar to you, I’ve made that decision before. I was a student at Alabama on April 27, and I left my
3rd floor apartment about 25 minutes before it came
through and drove south and out of the path of it (it missed my apartment complex by about 1/4 mile).
But I agree with others that suggesting any type of evacuation outside of a very small group such as chasers and weather nerds is a recipe for disaster.