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I agree about Barr recusing himself
 
It's interesting so many congressmen and the secretary of state say they haven't read the complaint yet, but they're speaking about it publicly and giving their thoughts to the media. You'd think they'd show more vested interest in the talk of the nation.

If the call was no big deal, totally appropriate as Trump put it, then was it really put in a secure server reserved for high end classified discussions? And if so, why? Seems like a normal discussion would go where normal discussions go.

If the verbatim transcript is obtained and it's worse than what was released by the White House, would that play into the idea that there's a cover-up?
 
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KoD said:
It's interesting so many congressmen and the secretary of state say they haven't read the complaint yet, but they're speaking about it publicly and giving their thoughts to the media. You'd think they'd show more vested interest in the talk of the nation.

If the call was no big deal, totally appropriate as Trump put it, then was it really put in a secure server reserved for high end classified discussions? And if so, why? Seems like a normal discussion would go where normal discussions go.

If the verbatim transcript is obtained and it's worse than what was released by the White House, would that play into the idea that there's a cover-up?
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They did the same thing with the Mueller Report. Both sides.
 
KoD said:
Whistleblower complaint was delivered to Congress. Thus far known reactions are:
Democrat: "deeply disturbing"
Republican: no comment.
Very interesting press conference today too.
National intelligence director threatens to resign if not allowed to speak freely to Congress? Idk what that's about.

The ball is moving fast now.
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WB heard the info second hand. If so egregious why didn't anyone that did hear the call come forward. The person is most likely a Brennan or Clapper plant.
 
Matt said:
WB heard the info second hand. If so egregious why didn't anyone that did hear the call come forward. The person is most likely a Brennan or Clapper plant.
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That will have to be investigated. Those people should be subpoenaed and answer questions.

The complaint is either fabricated, or the other people were part of a cover up.

The memorandum of transcript makes me think they are part of the cover up. It's impeachable as it sits.
 
gangstonc said:
They did the same thing with the Mueller Report. Both sides.
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That will have to be investigated. Those people should be subpoenaed and answer questions.

The complaint is either fabricated, or the other people were part of a cover up.

The memorandum of transcript makes me think they are part of the cover up. It's impeachable as it sits.
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This is all BS. This is just another chapter in the playbook to get Trump. This is a big pile of garbage. It will blow over and then the next pre-planned attack will be launched. Mark my words.
 
Matt said:
This is all BS. This is just another chapter in the playbook to get Trump. This is a big pile of garbage. It will blow over and then the next pre-planned attack will be launched. Mark my words.
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It may very well be. But how do you explain the content in the memorandum of transcript the WH released?

Specifically, pressuring a foreign country to investigate a political rival (while offering the help of the AG and a personal lawyer).
 
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It may very well be. But how do you explain the content in the memorandum of transcript the WH released?

Specifically, pressuring a foreign country to investigate a political rival (while offering the help of the AG and a personal lawyer).
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He asked them to look into how the Russia collusion crap started. I don't have a problem with him asking them to contact the AG about possible corruption by the former V.P. and his son. Do you ?
 
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He asked them to look into how the Russia collusion crap started. I don't have a problem with him asking them to contact the AG about possible corruption by the former V.P. and his son. Do you ?
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I do. He should have asked the FBI to do it. It directly benefits Trump. He shouldn't be asking for a "favor" like this.
 
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It's a pretty big deal. Very improper.
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Not a big deal. How about Sen. Murphy's threat to Ukraine's president to hold aid if they open an investigation into Biden ? where is your call for his resignation ? And the other three Dem senators I referenced earlier in this thread ?
 
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Not a big deal. How about Sen. Murphy's threat to Ukraine's president to hold aid if they open an investigation into Biden ? where is your call for his resignation ? And the other three Dem senators I referenced earlier in this thread ?
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If he did it, he needs to resign. However, he was careful to reference it to if they meddled in our election, we would revoke aid.

"I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself or his government into American politics. I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the President's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the President would gravely damage the U.S.-Ukraine relationship. There are few things that Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for Ukraine is one of them,"
 
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