I can't upload the photos right now because my internet has been UNBELIEVABLY bad lately (0.07mb/s on one speed test, literally worse than the dial-up connection I had for a bit back in 2017) but Cordova and the Sawyerville-Eoline "EF3" were nothing to scoff at either. The latter should have been rated EF4 for the debarking alone and I have to wonder if it caused any EF5-worthy damage along its path.
Yeah I can make a kmz file for it. Turns out a chunk of it also got erased too but it’s not as big an issue as the others. Probably get it done tonight…the EF0 contour that is.
yeeeeee! your work is excellent!
I appreciate the kind words, it means a lot!
how long did it take you to do the full thing originally? and will it take a similar or different amount of time to redo it?
For temporary issues, just set your phone up as a hotspot. Watch your data limits; some providers bill hotspot use differently than normal data. Programs like "Fox.fi" can usually 'trick' the system into thinking your hotspot use is data to circumvent limited hotspot issues. If you don't use it much it's easy to forget hotspot exists
but us old folks know it well!
Around 5-6 days, I’d imagine it’ll take a similar amount of time maybe a little less. The damage path is very complex and there were strength fluctuations almost constantly, it’s also just such a large area to look at. I’ve also got some other maps I made last year that I might remake, I know Vilonia was one of them along with Moore and Joplin. Probably put those on hold for a later time if I were to remake them.
Well obviously this dude's blog lol:
stormstalker.wordpress.com
Mulhall reminds me so much of El Reno '13. Pretty much everyone who saw it agreed that it was likely extremely violent, and the radar presentation (both NEXRAD and mobile) was super impressive, but the actual damage on the ground didn't always match up. Obviously a big part of that is just traversing sparse terrain, but the complex structure in both cases probably played a role as well. You might record insane velocities on radar, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're reaching the ground - or at least not in such a way as to cause the kind of damage you'd expect.
I think that comparing Bridge Creek to El Reno is not a very fair comparison outside of the fact that they were tornadoes. It seems like there's a comparison to be made between Mulhall and El Reno 13, which is actually insane to think about. Everybody was focused on Storm A, but another historic tornado, for different reasons, occurred that day and went borderline unnoticed by non-hardcore weather enthusiasts.
I'm not sure you read the post you're replying to lol. That's exactly the comparison I was making; I only mentioned Bridge Creek in the context that it's not a sensible comparison, even though it's sort of become part of the mythos over the years. I think Mulhall is often "unnoticed" because, well.. there's not that much to notice. Wurman's paper is endlessly fascinating (and worth a read for anyone who hasn't yet!), but outside of that there's not a whole lot to go on. I included everything of interest that I could find in my article but it still only amounted to like 1,200 words and maybe a dozen photos.
I think I miscommunicated, I meant that you didn't make the comparison of measured width. Seems like similar situations of a meso reaching the ground. As for the other stuff, I was agreeing with you, just tried to add something else
It's all good. It's a really, really good thing that Mulhall (or El Reno '13 for that matter) traveled over mostly open, sparsely populated areas, but it's a bit frustrating from a WX nerd standpoint that there are so many unknowns. Would've been really interesting to see either of them track through forested land. I mean, we saw something sort of like that with the 5/31/85 Moshannon F4, but that tornado was also moving a lot faster through much more rugged terrain, which heavily influenced its structure, path, damage pattern, etc. At least based on the mobile radar data, Mulhall and El Reno had pretty unique internal structures.
