Aaron Rider
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One of many freakish damage feats by, in my opinion, the greatest of all recorded tornadoes - as Keith Jackson said of the Rose Bowl game, "The granddaddy of them all"(one of the freaks of the storm) the heck does that mean lol
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One of many freakish damage feats by, in my opinion, the greatest of all recorded tornadoes - as Keith Jackson said of the Rose Bowl game, "The granddaddy of them all"(one of the freaks of the storm) the heck does that mean lol
A now largely archaic term that was essentially replaced with "incredible phenomena will occur" when the Fujita scale was developed.(one of the freaks of the storm) the heck does that mean lol
I'm currently working to geolocate and map damage from this event, so far I have ~37 points mapped.Meanwhile in Brazil, Rio Bontio do Iguaçu was hit by a strong tornado today. 3 people are reported dead and apparently nearly the entire town has taken major damage.
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From what I've seen it looks like at least EF3 damage, possibly EF4 (unfortunately a lot of the pics aren't very clear, but there seem to be totally debarked trees).
20 years ago, a deadly F3 tornado highlighted the dangers of mobile homes - and the importance of weather radios.
Thanks!There is a thread for doing these "years ago" posts just so you're aware! Check out "Hurricane + Tornado Anniversaries"
https://talkweather.com/threads/hurricane-tornado-anniversaries.2250/
It gets lost in the shadow of the very next day, but here's a reminder of how violent Shawnee, OK 5/19/13 was:
I know we talked about this yesterday but I'm still not sure whether the home in the last picture is indeed what is shown in the video. I'll look more into it this weekend.View attachment 48555
jarrell tornado seem to have lasted longer then what most people think.
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NWS list this whole part as 4 different tornadoes but i can only see 1 or 2.
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note that for this part it was base on video evidence (drillbit stage)
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it was on the ground a bit before however its a bit too hard to locate where this started.
The jet translation speed or the outbreak itself?View attachment 48561
It's hard to think we'll see anything like this ever again
Just the jet in general. 100kts translating at 58.5 right over the warm sector is insane to think about.The jet translation speed or the outbreak itself?
One of the comments I’ll never forget on the American Wx forum before the event was a Meteorologist saying:Just the jet in general. 100kts translating at 58.5 right over the warm sector is insane to think about.
Plus the thermal boundaries left over. 4/27 was simply as perfect as a tornadic setup we have ever seen. I still think that something above 4/27/11 with like 3,000 CAPE or higher with more extreme kinematics is possible but extraordinarily rare to combine.One of the comments I’ll never forget on the American Wx forum before the event was a Meteorologist saying:
“This model run has a 100kt isotach completely overlapping the warm sector at peak heating. This has massive potential”
That may not be verbatim what he said but you get the gist.
I’m sure a lot of the historic outbreaks, especially “pre tornadic records” in the past had a screaming 500 mb jet punching into a warm sector. Probably even more than 58.5. Too bad tornado record/outbreak setup data as a whole is still relatively new when you think about the entire historic record.
I'd say wait 40-50 years and we'll likely have another in that region of the country, hopefully not ALL of it. 1974 outbreak was far more widespread compared to the 2011 one.View attachment 48561
It's hard to think we'll see anything like this ever again
4/27/11 wasn't as widespread like 4/3/74 was, I'm not sure which would be worse in this day and age.Plus the thermal boundaries left over. 4/27 was simply as perfect as a tornadic setup we have ever seen. I still think that something above 4/27/11 with like 3,000 CAPE or higher with more extreme kinematics is possible but extraordinarily rare to combine.
The worst thing is that another Super Outbreak is inevitable. It could happen in 40 years, heck, it could happen next year. Nobody knows. But just because 4/3/74 and 4/27/11 happened around 30-40 years apart doesn't mean that is the standard. It can happen anytime being realistic.
We will see. I don't want to see it happen but it's inevitable and only a matter of time. Warning time has improved with many new products so I would think that the event would be adequately forecasted, lots of piblif public stations with serious advisories. The problem is if power gets knocked out. That was a key factor on 4/27 for many deaths and unfortunately, the other reasons just simply being the raw intensity of the tornadoes that day..
Good point. Both scenarios are equally as major, but I'm sure with more advanced lead time and products like WOFS, information could be spread easier.4/27/11 wasn't as widespread like 4/3/74 was, I'm not sure which would be worse in this day and age.