Significant Tornado Events

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Given that the bus was completely stripped down to its frame I don't see not being evidence of EF5 intensity. Rainsville was extremely selective, but multivortex tornadoes often are. Rainsville also swept away houses without damaging the vegetation or trees around them, which seems weird but again, multivortex tornadoes are like that. I don't think it was as violent as Smithville or Hackleburg but it was still one of the most violent tornadoes documented in quite a while.

This article demonstrates its EF5 potential with some pretty incredible photographs:

Amazing Damage Pictures from the EF5 Rainsville Tornado – April 27, 2011

□ During the April 27th, 2011 Super Outbreak, a tornado of incredible ferocity left a streak of devastation through northeast Alabama. The tornado carved a modest 34 mile path, significantly shorte…

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Rainsville was probably the least violent EF5 of the day

Juliett Bravo Kilo · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
Rainsville was probably the least violent EF5 of the day

Yeah, I agree with it being the least violent EF5 of the day, although on a day like 4/27/11 "least violent" is extremely relative, lol.

Shakespeare 2016 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
Rainsville was probably the least violent EF5 of the day

Some of the contextual damage from the Rainsville tornado was quite jaw dropping.

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Yeah, I agree with it being the least violent EF5 of the day, although on a day like 4/27/11 "least violent" is extremely relative, lol.

I honestly wanna say this, The Hackleburg and Smithville tornadoes were just absolutely incredible tornadoes, the damage ant catastrophic they left was just absolutely heartbreaking and they both produced very violent damage

pohnpei · Mar 28, 2021

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Given that the bus was completely stripped down to its frame I don't see not being evidence of EF5 intensity. Rainsville was extremely selective, but multivortex tornadoes often are. Rainsville also swept away houses without damaging the vegetation or trees around them, which seems weird but again, multivortex tornadoes are like that. I don't think it was as violent as Smithville or Hackleburg but it was still one of the most violent tornadoes documented in quite a while.

This article demonstrates its EF5 potential with some pretty incredible photographs:

Amazing Damage Pictures from the EF5 Rainsville Tornado – April 27, 2011

□ During the April 27th, 2011 Super Outbreak, a tornado of incredible ferocity left a streak of devastation through northeast Alabama. The tornado carved a modest 34 mile path, significantly shorte…

extremeplanet.wordpress.com

When a tornado went through a town with a large amount of all types of DI availablle, you have to consider all of them into account beacuse every types of DI has its limited factor. The limited factor of vehicle damage was its randomness. Like, you can't say that
bus damage have to take winds of 230mph or 250mph to do that beacuse noone knows it. All types of DI should complementary with each other with there pros and cons. At least, that is what we did when there were enough DI available inside a city/town. Like I said before, even with some near extreme vehicle damage, Jonesboro was no way being considered as an EF5 tornado, so did Rainsville in downtown area.

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
I honestly wanna say this, The Hackleburg and Smithville tornadoes were just absolutely incredible tornadoes, the damage ant catastrophic they left was just absolutely heartbreaking and they both produced very violent damage

oops sorry i had some typos, but i meant to put the catastrophic damage they produced sorry

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

Shakespeare 2016 said:
Some of the contextual damage from the Rainsville tornado was quite jaw dropping.

It really was

Juliett Bravo Kilo · Mar 28, 2021

pohnpei said:
When a tornado went through a town with a large amount of all types of DI availablle, you have to consider all of them into account beacuse every types of DI has its limited factor. The limited factor of vehicle damage was its randomness. Like, you can't say that
bus damage have to take winds of 230mph or 250mph to do that beacuse noone knows it. All types of DI should complementary with each other with there pros and cons. At least, that is what we did when there were enough DI available inside a city/town. Like I said before, even with some near extreme vehicle damage, Jonesboro was no way being considered as an EF5 tornado, so did Rainsville in downtown area.

Alright, I understand where you're coming from now. Rainsville is a bit weird, that said I still stand with the EF5 rating, as so many tornadoes are waaaaay underrated nowadays. The mindset of "conservative rating = more accurate rating" needs to stop (I'm looking at you Vilonia and Chapman).

buckeye05 · Mar 28, 2021

Ya’ll are fine don’t worry. Only problem here is you know who.

I was just PO’d that someone who’s photo analysis and pattern recognition abilities are essentially non-existent wanted to debate with me over what a photo shows. Oh the irony.

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

buckeye05 said:
I was just PO’d that someone who’s photo analysis and pattern recognition abilities are essentially non-existent wanted to debate with my over what a photo shows. Oh the irony.

Oh Buckeye, remember the letter i sent you? did you happen to end up reading it?

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Alright, I understand where you're coming from now. Rainsville is a bit weird, that said I still stand with the EF5 rating, as so many tornadoes are waaaaay underrated nowadays. The mindset of "conservative rating = more accurate rating" needs to stop (I'm looking at you Vilonia and Chapman).

in my personal opinion, it’s really hard to decide which was stronger, Chapman or Vilonia

buckeye05 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
Oh Buckeye, remember the letter i sent you? did you happen to end up reading it?

Been hella busy changing careers. I will get back to you.

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

buckeye05 said:
Been hella busy changing careers. I will get back to you.

no problem! oooo what career are you focusing on?

MNTornadoGuy · Mar 28, 2021

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Are you sure that's scouring and not just previously-plowed land? I've always been a bit iffy about this thing, some photographs it does appear to have produced scouring on hillsides but I wasn't sure.
Write-up on it: https://www.weather.gov/fsd/19920616-tornado-chandlerlakewilson

Yes, that is very likely scouring. Also notice the brown earth in the school bus photograph, that is also scouring.

buckeye05 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
no problem! oooo what career are you focusing on?

Videography, media, and broadcasting. I can’t do math to save my life, but want to have opportunities where I can incorporate severe weather documentation into what I do. About to take a big pay cut, but I’d rather be poor than be stuck in a passionless career.

Anyway, back to the topic of this thread.

Marshal79344 · Mar 28, 2021

I think that a very underrated tornado that nobody really mentions anywhere was the Franklin, Kansas Tornado of May 4th, 2003. The damage that the tornado produced had textbook violent tornado damage indicators everywhere. Here are some photos that I found while looking for images for my archives today:

Here is a photo of the Franklin tornado itself

Aerial view of the stricken town. Note the rather narrow corridor, which means that the conservation of angular momentum may have allowed this tornado to be a bit stronger than some of the other tornadoes on this day. Note the potential scouring and ground markings in fields in the background.

Some impressive ground-level photos I have

pohnpei · Mar 28, 2021

Don

Juliett Bravo Kilo said:
Alright, I understand where you're coming from now. Rainsville is a bit weird, that said I still stand with the EF5 rating, as so many tornadoes are waaaaay underrated nowadays. The mindset of "conservative rating = more accurate rating" needs to stop (I'm looking at you Vilonia and Chapman).

Don't misunderstand it. I am not to argue whether Rainsville was an EF5 tornado or not. What I mean was it was not an EF5 tornado in downtown area of Rainsville. There was a map of this tornado on NWS website showed very large areas of EF5 damage all along its path including downtown Rainsville. That was ridiculous. Even Hackleburg/Smithville didn't have so many EF5 areas and it can't be so many EF5 damage being ingnored when you upgrade a tornado 50 days later. Actually the first and second area EF5 damage was no more than EF0/1 damage.

The damage in Rainsville.

Marshal79344 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
in my personal opinion, it’s really hard to decide which was stronger, Chapman or Vilonia

Both of them are really close, it's just hard to tell because Chapman happened to hit lesser populated areas than Vilonia did, but both had extreme contextual damage.

speedbump305 · Mar 28, 2021

Marshal79344 said:
I think that a very underrated tornado that nobody really mentions anywhere was the Franklin, Kansas Tornado of May 4th, 2003. The damage that the tornado produced had textbook violent tornado damage indicators everywhere. Here are some photos that I found while looking for images for my archives today:

Here is a photo of the Franklin tornado itself

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Aerial view of the stricken town. Note the rather narrow corridor, which means that the conservation of angular momentum may have allowed this tornado to be a bit stronger than some of the other tornadoes on this day. Note the potential scouring and ground markings in fields in the background.

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Some impressive ground-level photos I have

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What was this tornado rated??

Marshal79344 · Mar 28, 2021

speedbump305 said:
What was this tornado rated??

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