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Severe Weather 2025

Same, if shear and helicity increase by any notable margin and we have confidence in the storm mode, then a significant day is what we could be looking at.

Heck I remember 2 days ago when I said "still a lot of questions to be answered before I call this a significant setup" but now, I genuinely only have 1 question. Will the helicity and shear increase? Because the CAPE is there, lapse rates look decent, supercell composite is consistantly in the 5-11 range, hodographs are well rounded, and moisture looks ok aswell. Helicity and shear are the only things that need to increase before I really start digging into this setup.
That's my question. Helicity/shear numbers have ticked up a tad in the past few model runs compared to the past 24 hours, but they still don't scream "tornado outbreak" numbers. That's part of why this setup is a bit complicated, and is why I view this as one of those setups so far that truly separate the amateur forecasters, to the professional ones.
 
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Forgive me if I am wrong but, are they already mentioning a MDT if capping sorts itself out?

I didn’t see anything about but I did see the mention of higher upgrade possibilities.

I think that was in reference to the areas further south where capping is currently more of a question, not the area that is already at 30%. By Day 1 I wouldn't be surprised to see a moderate for at least one hazard, though.

I'm slightly less enthused compared to 24 hours ago. A few GFS and Euro runs since have trended toward a more sheared out, positively tilted ejection, lacking that nice little compact, negatively tilted wave that the GFS had for a few runs prior to that. It's almost as if the southeast ridge is too amplified (WTH, it's April not June!) and it's blocking the trough from really digging in.

However, we are in that weird 84-120 hour range where it seems we frequently see severe threats that have been synoptically evident on the models for days appear to downtrend for some reason, and then sometime uptrend again 24-36 hours later.
 
I think that was in reference to the areas further south where capping is currently more of a question, not the area that is already at 30%. By Day 1 I wouldn't be surprised to see a moderate for at least one hazard, though.

I'm slightly less enthused compared to 24 hours ago. A few GFS and Euro runs since have trended toward a more sheared out, positively tilted ejection, lacking that nice little compact, negatively tilted wave that the GFS had for a few runs prior to that. It's almost as if the southeast ridge is too amplified (WTH, it's April not June!) and it's blocking the trough from really digging in.

However, we are in that weird 84-120 hour range where it seems we frequently see severe threats that have been synoptically evident on the models for days appear to downtrend for some reason, and then sometime uptrend again 24-36 hours later.
You think this is trending more towards a straight-line wind, damaging wind setup due to the lack of shear/helicity numbers, unless they tick up in the next couple days?
 
Plenty can change at this range, and model uncertainty will remain elevated for a while. That being said, some of the models are definitely suggestive of what would (in my opinion) be a pretty significant severe weather and tornado event on Monday.

Trough ejection looks already pretty favorable... long branch of strong mid-level flow, with a quick moving shortwave translating NE into the Upper Plains/Midwest region during the afternoon and evening of the 28th. Quick trough ejections should already raise some alarm bells (with reference to Chris Broyle's Omega Project). Not only that, but the majority of models have very rich moisture, strong lapse rates, which results in very robust instability profiles.

Most guidance suggests a strong LLJ will develop 21z-03z and I think wind shear will be more than sufficient for supercells.

Model differences exist in the parameter space and trough ejection, though all models depict environments at least somewhat favorable for severe weather/tornadoes.

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ICON and UKMET soundings posted above. I can understand why some may be concerned about a seeming lack of wind shear, which is fair enough given all our major events this year were earlier in the season and driven by super impressive kinematics. But in this case, 200-300 effective SRH is more than enough for EF2-3+ tornadoes, in my opinion. Not only is the hodograph shape itself consistent with higher-end tornado events in the past (sickle shape can be very efficient at producing tornadoes, even for technically lower shear values) but the instability is making up for it. If I'm completely honest, were the ICON to verify, I think we would see a major tornado outbreak.

All of that is said, of course, with the usual caveat with mid-range severe weather setups. Everything is subject to change, and mesoscale details which can make or break a setup may not be apparent until a few hours before! But at least at this stage, I am worried for the Plains and Midwest on Monday.
 
Plenty can change at this range, and model uncertainty will remain elevated for a while. That being said, some of the models are definitely suggestive of what would (in my opinion) be a pretty significant severe weather and tornado event on Monday.

Trough ejection looks already pretty favorable... long branch of strong mid-level flow, with a quick moving shortwave translating NE into the Upper Plains/Midwest region during the afternoon and evening of the 28th. Quick trough ejections should already raise some alarm bells (with reference to Chris Broyle's Omega Project). Not only that, but the majority of models have very rich moisture, strong lapse rates, which results in very robust instability profiles.

Most guidance suggests a strong LLJ will develop 21z-03z and I think wind shear will be more than sufficient for supercells.

Model differences exist in the parameter space and trough ejection, though all models depict environments at least somewhat favorable for severe weather/tornadoes.

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ICON and UKMET soundings posted above. I can understand why some may be concerned about a seeming lack of wind shear, which is fair enough given all our major events this year were earlier in the season and driven by super impressive kinematics. But in this case, 200-300 effective SRH is more than enough for EF2-3+ tornadoes, in my opinion. Not only is the hodograph shape itself consistent with higher-end tornado events in the past (sickle shape can be very efficient at producing tornadoes, even for technically lower shear values) but the instability is making up for it. If I'm completely honest, were the ICON to verify, I think we would see a major tornado outbreak.

All of that is said, of course, with the usual caveat with mid-range severe weather setups. Everything is subject to change, and mesoscale details which can make or break a setup may not be apparent until a few hours before! But at least at this stage, I am worried for the Plains and Midwest on Monday.
Phenomenal write-up. Appreciate the clarification and providing your input on what you're seeing.
 
Plenty can change at this range, and model uncertainty will remain elevated for a while. That being said, some of the models are definitely suggestive of what would (in my opinion) be a pretty significant severe weather and tornado event on Monday.

Trough ejection looks already pretty favorable... long branch of strong mid-level flow, with a quick moving shortwave translating NE into the Upper Plains/Midwest region during the afternoon and evening of the 28th. Quick trough ejections should already raise some alarm bells (with reference to Chris Broyle's Omega Project). Not only that, but the majority of models have very rich moisture, strong lapse rates, which results in very robust instability profiles.

Most guidance suggests a strong LLJ will develop 21z-03z and I think wind shear will be more than sufficient for supercells.

Model differences exist in the parameter space and trough ejection, though all models depict environments at least somewhat favorable for severe weather/tornadoes.

View attachment 40249View attachment 40250

ICON and UKMET soundings posted above. I can understand why some may be concerned about a seeming lack of wind shear, which is fair enough given all our major events this year were earlier in the season and driven by super impressive kinematics. But in this case, 200-300 effective SRH is more than enough for EF2-3+ tornadoes, in my opinion. Not only is the hodograph shape itself consistent with higher-end tornado events in the past (sickle shape can be very efficient at producing tornadoes, even for technically lower shear values) but the instability is making up for it. If I'm completely honest, were the ICON to verify, I think we would see a major tornado outbreak.

All of that is said, of course, with the usual caveat with mid-range severe weather setups. Everything is subject to change, and mesoscale details which can make or break a setup may not be apparent until a few hours before! But at least at this stage, I am worried for the Plains and Midwest on Monday.

You rock my world @UK_EF4. Love your write ups.
 
Thread for 4/28 and 4/29.
 
You rock my world @UK_EF4. Love your write ups.
Thanks @Kds86z and @US_Highway15 it's really nice of you to say that and I'm glad someone finds them useful

Though I do feel like I should say I am just a high-schooler from the UK so all of this is very unofficial and just my amateur thoughts haha - but it's really nice to have a place like this where us weather enthusiasts can share our opinions :D
 
Thanks @Kds86z and @US_Highway15 it's really nice of you to say that and I'm glad someone finds them useful

Though I do feel like I should say I am just a high-schooler from the UK so all of this is very unofficial and just my amateur thoughts haha - but it's really nice to have a place like this where us weather enthusiasts can share our opinions :D

Well shoot @UK_EF4 your forecast/discussion in evening turned out pretty legit for March 14. I remember clear as day. INCREDIBLE for high schooler. How did you do that ..SPC didn’t even use the V word but you did and we had 2 EF4
 
Thanks @Kds86z and @US_Highway15 it's really nice of you to say that and I'm glad someone finds them useful

Though I do feel like I should say I am just a high-schooler from the UK so all of this is very unofficial and just my amateur thoughts haha - but it's really nice to have a place like this where us weather enthusiasts can share our opinions :D
If you're just a high schooler you have a bright future ahead of you. Keep up the good work.
 
If you're just a high schooler you have a bright future ahead of you. Keep up the good work.
I second that. We don’t keep score around here on forecasts, but I remember you pretty adamantly talking about the high ceiling of April 2nd and how it was the day to watch for. Including when myself and many others were scratching our heads at what the hell Broyles was doing and how the preceding April 1st event over Oklahoma may be the headlining day(even more kudos to you because you stated you weren’t impressed with the 4/1 set up and it ended up being a bu$t)
 
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