CheeselandSkies
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3KM NAM actually more impressive than I was expecting this morning. However the HRRR advances the surface low much faster and has veered winds and scoured-out moisture across that part of IL by late tomorrow afternoon.
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That's not how probabilistic forecasting works, especially in the case of SPC's convective outlooks. It's an iterative process where your areas of greater confidence usually shrink as you move closer in.Spc has been of their rocker this year. Don't even issue a d6 or further unless your 100 percent sure. That was a big outlook on day 7 just to go away lol.
RIGHT! I'm not on social anymore but seems like it's still as hostile as ever on wxtwitter. Since being off social, it's given me more time to focus on long range forecasting and looking back at past data, etc. Which has been most interesting as well as helpful.Just a point of view. If,as good as SPC is and with the awesome professionals that work there cannot get it right at times during their Days 6-8 outlooks, then how about the TV mets shut their traps on social media about those of us out here that post graphics and our own point of views on the models/forecasts at long range themselves?
I've really picked up on this trend over the last couple of years.
First time I've seen a sounding with a hail box.18z NAM 3k for west-central Illinois definitely looks rough. The simulated radar shows a handful of discrete tornado cells popping up. Don't think it'll be a widespread outbreak, but a couple/few problematic areas is looking more possible.
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Yah, it's SharpPy desktop application. You can swap out several of the tiles, depending on what's relevant at the time.First time I've seen a sounding with a hail box.
..SUMMARY
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS, ASSOCIATED WITH LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING GUSTS,
AND TORNADOES, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE SIGNIFICANT, WILL BE POSSIBLE
FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE OVERNIGHT, ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
OHIO VALLEY AND SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES.
..OH VALLEY
A FAST-MOVING SOUTHERN-STREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL
PLAINS WILL TRACK EASTWARD TODAY AND BEGIN AFFECTING PARTS OF MO BY
LATE AFTERNOON OR EARLY EVENING. MOST 12Z GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT AT
LEAST ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT WILL BEGIN AROUND/AFTER DUSK
AS THE LARGE-SCALE FORCING OVERSPREADS THE NORTHERN EXTENT OF
MOIST/UNSTABLE AIR MASS FROM SOUTHWEST MO INTO SOUTHERN IL. THESE
STORMS WILL INTENSIFY AND TRACK EASTWARD OVERNIGHT ROUGHLY ALONG THE
OH RIVER, MOVING INTO PARTS OF OH/WV/PA BY EARLY MORNING WEDNESDAY.
INITIAL STORMS MAY BE DISCRETE, WITH SUFFICIENT VERTICAL SHEAR FOR
SUPERCELLS STRUCTURES CAPABLE OF ALL SEVERE HAZARDS. AS THE NIGHT
PROGRESSES, ACTIVITY WILL LIKELY EVOLVE INTO FAST-MOVING BOWING
STRUCTURES WITH AN ENHANCED RISK OF DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND A FEW
TORNADOES. A STRONG TORNADO OR TWO CANNOT BE RULED OUT. HAVE ADDED
AN ENH RISK AREA FOR THIS SCENARIO OVERNIGHT.
They also expanded the northern ENH into the Chicago metro area.Northern ENH upgraded to 10% hatched TOR. Haven’t had a chance to look at models today but SPC seems bullish compared to even this morning.
Northern ENH upgraded to 10% hatched TOR. Haven’t had a chance to look at models today but SPC seems bullish compared to even this morning.