MNTornadoGuy
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https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?useExisting=1&layers=e84d21a6c38a41f0b6e589d09fdd85d7Where are these pictures coming from? Do you have a link?
I'm sure it was outside the core, otherwise that guy wouldn't be alive.
I remember from the live coverage of 4/27, James Spann mentioning that some tugboat operators on the Tombigbee River were nearly hit by tornadoes during the prior 4/15 outbreak. "Talk about being in a bad spot, there's not much they can do!"
I don’t know, this got me looking at tugboat specs and those things are massive. I don’t know if even hit with the EF5 core if the wind could get underneath it to move it.
I wouldn’t want to be on it, but it may be one of the safer places to be.
That would be a little concerning, but I’d feel pretty good being behind the 3/8” to 1/2” steel plate of the hull.I'd be most concerned about debris impacts. To shelter from debris penetrating the superstructure, you'd want to go below into the hull (the boat's equivalent of a "basement"), but then if debris penetrates the hull, you may be trapped if/when it floods/sinks.
Utter devastation in Mayfield. The tornado here was probably not as intense as in Bremen but it was still extremely violent. I'll post more photos I found later.
Utter devastation in Mayfield. The tornado here was probably not as intense as in Bremen but it was still extremely violent. I'll post more photos I found later.
Yep it is a chemical tractor trailer.Photo #6. Is that the remains of a tanker truck?? Good god...
Even though the one in El Reno 2011 likely traveled farther, that is by far the worst damage to a tanker truck I have ever seen. It's barely even recognizable. Just unreal...Yep it is a chemical tractor trailer.
I do wonder if the damage to the truck was worsened by debris from the candle factory.Even though the one in El Reno 2011 likely traveled farther, that is by far the worst damage to a tanker truck I have ever seen. It's barely even recognizable. Just unreal...
The bottom pic shows both end-nailed studs and the anchor-bolting retrofitted with expanding bolts; not poured-in-place standard anchor bolts. Given these the max rating available would be EF-4.
But what really sucks is that even though these anchor bolts held, if the rest of the structure was up to EF-5 DI's they would almost certainly still rate EF-4 because of the type of anchor bolt used not being "correct" even though these clearly held and did the job adequately. Therein lies the problems of using engineers for damage surveys. I don't know how many of you have had to deal with these people directly but in my 45 years of construction work I've crossed paths with them too many times. And while I don't like to categorize people as there's always exceptions, I have never met an engineer who didn't have a hugely-inflated ego with a side-order of "God complex" thrown in. More than a few times I've shown them obvious errors in their designs and ways to easily do things better but they won't accept it. Yes we do need engineers involved with damage surveys; just not in the capacity and with the authority of how they're being used now. Because of this we're getting incorrect answers to our questions and until we change the approach that will continue.
Phil
Utter devastation in Mayfield. The tornado here was probably not as intense as in Bremen but it was still extremely violent. I'll post more photos I found later.
That chemical tank truck completely mangled beyond recognition reminds me of vehicle damage from the Andover tornado and some other tornadoes as well. Calling this tornado only a high-end EF4 is just stretching the bounds way too much.I'm just a layman and I am sorry but there is no way that is from anything less than F5 pictures I have seen before. The cars, trees, houses, and trenches all point to more than F4. Don't tell me it's raining while you are p***ing on my head.
I'd still like someone to explain how this is EF3 damage...View of one of the homes that was destroyed in Cambridge Shores. It was bolted to its foundation however it appears the concrete basement walls are only continuous on one side and one of the bolts appears to be missing washers.
I don't think that home is on DAT yet.I'd still like someone to explain how this is EF3 damage...
I'm quite confused about DAT. Did they already finished updating? Because it's been a while from the last update.But there were still tons of houses not labeled. Literally everywhere.I don't think that home is on DAT yet.