Significant Tornado Events

[pohnpei]

Significant Tornado Events

Incidentally, another example of a well-deserving F5 that probably wouldn't be an EF5 today - the sill plates were anchor bolted, but the foundation walls were CMU. (Although there were also a few slab homes swept away, so I suppose there's a chance it might earn an EF5 today. But probably...

talkweather.com

Thank you, do you also have any notable damage pics?

There's a lot we posted here before.
Some additional

 

[SouthFLwx]

Significant Tornado Events

Incidentally, another example of a well-deserving F5 that probably wouldn't be an EF5 today - the sill plates were anchor bolted, but the foundation walls were CMU. (Although there were also a few slab homes swept away, so I suppose there's a chance it might earn an EF5 today. But probably...

talkweather.com

There's a lot we posted here before.
Some additional
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Ok thank you. Do you have a Twitter that I can credit you in my post?

 

[pohnpei]

Ok thank you. Do you have a Twitter that I can credit you in my post?

https://mobile.twitter.com/pohnpei13

You don't really need to credit me because I don't own any of these photos.

 

[SouthFLwx]

https://mobile.twitter.com/pohnpei13

You don't really need to credit me because I don't own any of these photos.

Oh ok appreciate the help!

 

[TH2002]

Well, it's April 27, we all know what day that is.
And while it almost seems like intense vehicle damage is often the "missing link" in Dixie tornadoes, the Super Outbreak tornadoes did not hesitate to chew up literally everything in their paths, including vehicles.

Hackleburg


Smithville



Rainsville



Philadelphia


Cordova

Tuscaloosa

Ringgold

May the 324 lives lost to these tornadoes always be remembered. We keep them, their relatives and friends, and those who lost everything in our hearts and prayers.
R.I.P.

 

[SouthFLwx]

Well, it's April 27, we all know what day that is.
And while it almost seems like intense vehicle damage is often the "missing link" in Dixie tornadoes, the Super Outbreak tornadoes did not hesitate to chew up literally everything in their paths, including vehicles.

Hackleburg
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Smithville
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Rainsville
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Philadelphia
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Cordova

Tuscaloosa

Ringgold

May the 324 lives lost to these tornadoes always be remembered. We keep them, their relatives and friends, and those who lost everything in our hearts and prayers.
R.I.P.

Smithville was by far the most violent tornado that day. The insane vehicle damage, granulation of bricks, and entire buildings swept away would also probably put in a spot of one of the most violent tornadoes of all time.

 

[Austin Dawg]

My brother posted this today. The memorial is where his home once stood.

 

[MNTornadoGuy]

Damage from the 1899 Kirksville Missouri tornado OTD in 1899.

 

[Juliett Bravo Kilo]

Well, it's April 27, we all know what day that is.
And while it almost seems like intense vehicle damage is often the "missing link" in Dixie tornadoes, the Super Outbreak tornadoes did not hesitate to chew up literally everything in their paths, including vehicles.

Hackleburg
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Smithville
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Rainsville
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Philadelphia
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Cordova

Tuscaloosa

Ringgold

May the 324 lives lost to these tornadoes always be remembered. We keep them, their relatives and friends, and those who lost everything in our hearts and prayers.
R.I.P.

A couple of those Cordova pics show impressive ground scouring, this thing was a lot more violent than I previously thought.
Also, Hackleburg carried a Crown Victoria a mile and threw it in someone's pond; it wasn't found until the pond was drained a year later.

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

Could you post this image there? Even if it isn't Tionesta, it could be another one of the wedges of that outbreak! (or of that decade)

@locomusic01 I posted this here a while ago but you never responded. (although maybe the photo you mentioned in the quoted post was that one that turned out to be a Kansas F3)

 

[Juliett Bravo Kilo]

Damage from the 1899 Kirksville Missouri tornado OTD in 1899.

Ah, finally in this thread this tornado gets a mention! This is definitely a borderline-F5 case, and it isn't often my home state gets mentioned in tornado statistics outside of Joplin or the Tri-State Tornado. Missouri is weird as it seems like the edges (northern, southern, eastern and western) are prone to tornadoes but central Missouri (the region I reside in) manages to avoid them for the most part. Not sure why that is.
Yeah, the last picture is pretty impressive and might raise this to full-on F5 (unless the structures hit were frail).

 

[Juliett Bravo Kilo]

No I don't. The Delta outbreak is another one of those "why the hell isn't this better documented?!" events I'd love to dig into more at some point. I mean there's stuff out there obviously, and some of it is pretty impressive, but I haven't come across much from the very hardest-hit areas. I'm sure a concerted effort could probably turn up a lot.

The fact that it hit entirely rural areas that were very remote, cut off from mainstream society in many ways is likely the main reason (same for the reason the "Forgotten F5" is well....forgotten by many people lol) but it's a high amount of deaths for a rural area. Of course, how much of this was due to the strength of the tornadoes and how much to the lack of shelter and frail structures most people in the path lived in is the other issue in that regard.

 

[Casuarina Head]

Significant Tornado Events

Incidentally, another example of a well-deserving F5 that probably wouldn't be an EF5 today - the sill plates were anchor bolted, but the foundation walls were CMU. (Although there were also a few slab homes swept away, so I suppose there's a chance it might earn an EF5 today. But probably...

talkweather.com

There's a lot we posted here before.
Some additional

Vilonia was almost certainly the equal of the ‘99 Bridge Creek and ‘13 Moore E/F5s in terms of intensity. Scouring, along with near-ground-level vegetative and vehicular damage, is strikingly reminiscent of that which occurred in those two events. I’d also argue that the Cordova tornado probably approached Vilonia, Bridge Creek, and Moore in intensity while over rural areas, as it also generated very extreme scouring and low-level debarking, at least in isolated spots. Based on imagery Kirksville might also be a top-tier candidate, given sparseness of coverage, but more information is needed.

 

[MNTornadoGuy]

Damage from the 1990 Bakersfield Valley tornado. The image quality isn’t the best but it’s one of the few photos available.

 

[locomusic01]

@locomusic01 I posted this here a while ago but you never responded. (although maybe the photo you mentioned in the quoted post was that one that turned out to be a Kansas F3)

My bad! I saw your earlier post but I got distracted and ended up never coming back lol. There are actually two of them, but I don't really know what to make of them without more info. They look like they're straight out of the Flint-Worcester outbreak. They're not, but that's what they instantly call to mind for me:

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

My bad! I saw your earlier post but I got distracted and ended up never coming back lol. There are actually two of them, but I don't really know what to make of them without more info. They look like they're straight out of the Flint-Worcester outbreak. They're not, but that's what they instantly call to mind for me:

I tried Google, Tineye and Yandex, but none of them had matching photos so actually these might really be Tionesta photos. Disappointingly if they are they don't show the "rolling fog bank" section that was described, similar to how there are no photos of Atlantic's "rolling fog bank" phase. You did also mention that you had a few possible Kane photos that are also awaiting verification.


EDIT: Just gonna go ahead and make a list of the violent tornadoes and if there are photos of them, in chronological order:
Grand Valley: No photos
Albion: Multiple photos
Barrie: Exactly one photo
Atlantic: Multiple photos, none during wedge stage
Corry: Multiple photos, one during wedge phase, at least one video at max width that hasn't surfaced yet
Niles-Wheatland: Plenty of photos and video
Tionesta: At least one video that hasn't surfaced, a few photos that also haven't surfaced, two photos that might be of this tornado although not verified yet
Moshannon: No public photos, at least one photo that hasn't surfaced
Kane: Multiple unverified photos

EDIT 2: Also adding one more because Significant Tornadoes, NCDC and the State College memorial page have it as F4:
Watsontown: No photos

 

[locomusic01]

I tried Google, Tineye and Yandex, but none of them had matching photos so actually these might really be Tionesta photos. Disappointingly if they are they don't show the "rolling fog bank" section that was described, similar to how there are no photos of Atlantic's "rolling fog bank" phase. You did also mention that you had a few possible Kane photos that are also awaiting verification.

Yeah, there's nothing about them that screams "obviously not Tionesta" but I'd feel better about it if I had more info on where they were supposedly taken or who took them. Assuming for a moment that they're legit, the second photo looks like a pretty good fit for what people described seeing early in the path as the tornado neared Route 36. The first photo could maybe be a fit for the German Hill area, where a couple of people described seeing a violently rotating wedge coming up the hill from US 62. It seems to have gone all "rolling fog bank" somewhere between Starr and Kellettville, so I doubt there'd be any photos (or at least any clear-ish photos) from there on.

Re: Kane, they ended up being from a more recent event in the same general area. I'm still trying to chase down a few other leads on tornado photos, including Kane and Tionesta, but I'm getting pretty pessimistic about them at this point. I know there are photos out there - in some cases multiple photos - but no one seems to understand how important they are. It's insane how many people either lose track of their pictures or just straight up throw them away. I die a little inside every time I hear that.

 

[Juliett Bravo Kilo]

Yeah, there's nothing about them that screams "obviously not Tionesta" but I'd feel better about it if I had more info on where they were supposedly taken or who took them. Assuming for a moment that they're legit, the second photo looks like a pretty good fit for what people described seeing early in the path as the tornado neared Route 36. The first photo could maybe be a fit for the German Hill area, where a couple of people described seeing a violently rotating wedge coming up the hill from US 62. It seems to have gone all "rolling fog bank" somewhere between Starr and Kellettville, so I doubt there'd be any photos (or at least any clear-ish photos) from there on.

Re: Kane, they ended up being from a more recent event in the same general area. I'm still trying to chase down a few other leads on tornado photos, including Kane and Tionesta, but I'm getting pretty pessimistic about them at this point. I know there are photos out there - in some cases multiple photos - but no one seems to understand how important they are. It's insane how many people either lose track of their pictures or just straight up throw them away. I die a little inside every time I hear that.

Did you find the photo of someone who taped the Kane, Atlantic or Tionesta tornado yet? Not sure which one it was.
Also, any photos or video possibilities of Moshannon State Forest?

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

Re: Kane, they ended up being from a more recent event in the same general area. I'm still trying to chase down a few other leads on tornado photos, including Kane and Tionesta, but I'm getting pretty pessimistic about them at this point. I know there are photos out there - in some cases multiple photos - but no one seems to understand how important they are. It's insane how many people either lose track of their pictures or just straight up throw them away. I die a little inside every time I hear that.

A big shame.

I also created this list:

Grand Valley: No photos
Albion: Multiple photos
Barrie: Exactly one photo
Atlantic: Multiple photos, none during wedge stage
Corry: Multiple photos, one during wedge phase, at least one video at max width that hasn't surfaced yet
Niles-Wheatland: Plenty of photos and video
Tionesta: At least one video that hasn't surfaced, a few photos that also haven't surfaced, two photos that might be of this tornado although not verified yet
Moshannon: No public photos, at least one photo that hasn't surfaced
Kane: Multiple unverified photos

The new question is: are there any unverified/claimed photos of Grand Valley, or any actual photos I haven't seen yet, or just no photos at all?

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

Also, any photos or video possibilities of Moshannon State Forest?

There is most definitely a photo of Moshannon, but the woman who has it isn't willing to send it to Locomusic.