Tanner
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Wow! It’s been years sincd we’vs seen something like this from DOW readings.
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Wow! It’s been years sincd we’vs seen something like this from DOW readings.
Violent looking debris pattern from a destroyed home. Some wind-rowing was evident in this area.
Apparently this is what the house used to be. Good god, this might be an EF-5...
Alright cool the jets on the EF5 talk. Not even sure how these homes were built yet.
Where did you find this?? I've been trying to find the location of the damage shown in the drone video but with no luck.
Also calm down, we need extreme contextual damage for EF5, which I haven't seen yet, and we have no construction information, so please pump the brakes on the EF5 talk. Yeah a big house got swept away, but it takes so much more than that.
Edit: Andy said it first but my point still stands. This isn't a strong EF5 candidate.
jiharris0220
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I agree with you entirely, these are my own thoughts about the current ef scale.
I legitimately think one of the biggest issues with the ef scale is that it completely low balls a tornadoes actually wind speeds. It will never make sense to me that a high end cat5 is apparently equivalent to an an ef4 tornado.
Um, holy hell.
Tanner
Member
Yeah, context is the main factor per usual (when it’s acutally taken into account). I’m with you, solid EF4.
I will say, I was surprised the damage wasn’t worse based off the radar signature in such close proximity to said radar.
jiharris0220
Member
I actually think proximity to radar is what made people think it was gonna be more violent damage. Which again just goes back to the point of tornadoes having far higher wind speeds in reality than what they’re rated.
A friend sent it, I'll try and confirm where it is along the path.
Clancy
Member
Second video is here, N 173rd and Beinnington Rd. Not sure where the first one is yet, though, looking through Blair now.
Tanner
Member
I honestly think that debris height is a much more accurate measurement of a tornadoes strength than the wind speed velocities.
Also, with a wedge, multiple vortex tornado like we were seeing on friday, you have to wonder if the wind speeds are increasingly higher as you go up and only small vortices created pockets of extreme damage like we saw in Elkhorn. Some multiple vortex tornadoes are still more compact than others.
Ok found it. The first video of the EF4ish looking damage is in the Lariat Lane area. Also my suspicions are confirmed. That third completely obliterated structure I posted a screen cap of was not a house, but a large garage or workshop.
Tomcats Forever!
Member
Amazing how narrow the path of complete destruction is. Still, a lot of houses that weren't leveled are gonna have to be razed.
jiharris0220
Member
Yeah, people tend to forget that a tornado doesn’t need to level a structure to actually destroy it. An ef1 could render even a well built structure a total loss if there’s enough water/integrity damage.
Flyover of Minden IA showing that part of the town is just obliterated.
Tanner
Member
I wouldn't be surprised to see EF4 for this, with the added confidence of higher winds now prevalent because of the DOW.
Tomcats Forever!
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Yes, I do believe I put that caveat in there.
Fatality reported in Minden IA from the violent tornado that struck there Friday. Reliable source here, long time Omaha broadcast meteorologist.
