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Severe Weather 3/9 - 3/12

I don't love all the hatching, it's definitely cluttered to look at, but at the same time I don't think the SPC should just be forced to simply take a red marker to a map and draw a single circle and say "tornadoes here maybe I guess" so that the general public won't complain
 
I think it's the job of the local meteorologists to translate the CIG risks into something that's accessible and understandable for their area - the SPC is producing these as more scientific and analytical forecasts not really intended to be put up as is on the 11pm news. I don't believe the general public/non-weather trackers are refreshing the SPC website for the detailed analysis used in these outlooks, so in my opinion I don't see a reason the SPC should have to appeal to the general public. I'd leave that to the local mets who best know their area and audience
I agree, the SPC has access to a bunch of advanced models (and skilled forecasters!) that we do not, and I don't see why anyone would be complaining about more detail from them. For the average person the ENH/MDT/HIGH/etc system is good enough, and as always local weather people can translate the new detail into something digestible for the general public.
 
The simple solution would've been for regular risk to be classified as CIG 1, then EF2 be CIG2, EF3 be CIG 3, EF4 be Cig 4. I was just explaining the different cig levels to someone and the mismatched numbers felt a little goofy. It's not that bad, though. Just tell people the colors represent probability, and the dashes represent intensity. Boom, problem solved.
 
I also vote for no more Connor Croff on this forum unless it's actual tornado pics or video. I couldn't care less about his or any other storm chaser opinions about SPC forecasts.
The Office Thank You GIF

And yes I am guilty for posting his, but as time has gone on I’ve realized it’s just gotten to me at breaking point.

“I drove 1000 miles for a bird fart needle tornado that lasted 2 minute “ wah wah wah
 
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I'm inclined to agree. I really appreciate what the fine folks at the SPC do, especially given recent funding turbulence, but this new outlook regime feels clunky
I actually love it and think it’s the best change that the SPC has made in a long, long time. The products the SPC puts out are not intended to be consumed by the standard person. The SPC in the past had the same level of “warning” in their graphics when they thought the ceiling was EF-2s as they did when they expected EF-4s. It made no sense. I think today’s graphics are much, much clearer and much better at conveying the actual risk. Can the general public understand them? Probably not but they arent intended for them. Further, the general public certainly didn’t understand the old ones when it was the same for every “sig” event and we actually had to read the entire discussion full of very meteorological jargon to see what the threat actually was.
 
What's the current thinking today? Any chatter on a upgrade In tornado risk?
I wouldn't be surprised if a small MDT is introduced at 1630z, but it really depends on who's at the desk.
 
I actually love it and think it’s the best change that the SPC has made in a long, long time. The products the SPC puts out are not intended to be consumed by the standard person. The SPC in the past had the same level of “warning” in their graphics when they thought the ceiling was EF-2s as they did when they expected EF-4s. It made no sense. I think today’s graphics are much, much clearer and much better at conveying the actual risk. Can the general public understand them? Probably not but they arent intended for them. Further, the general public certainly didn’t understand the old ones when it was the same for every “sig” event and we actually had to read the entire discussion full of very meteorological jargon to see what the threat actually was.
Absolutely 100% agree here. I originally wasn't a fan but I've since came around to it, especially since it isn't for the general public to look at unless they have some sort of baseline understanding of things from a meteorological perspective. We needed the ability to incorporate hatching into risks that constituted a less than 10% since it's honestly not that uncommon of an occurrence at this point, and like you said, seeing the same level of hatched for a day like 4/27/11 being compared to a day like 3/5 this year is hilariously wrong.

I fully believe that this change was very needed. The only thing I'm worried about now is them using the CIG1 hatch a bit too much but that may be me underestimating today's threat. I don't think the CIG1 hatch should have been extended throughout the entire nonzero tornado risk area today.
 
I'm inclined to agree. I really appreciate what the fine folks at the SPC do, especially given recent funding turbulence, but this new outlook regime feels clunky
I think the idea is something that was bound to be instituted at some point–it’s just the way it was done that could be a bit confusing for civilians.
 
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