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Looks like some significant issues in the mid south and Ohio valley.... Yikes
To add to that, the deep south may actually get a significant event if the cards are played right, we are still relatively far in voodoo land. But I may need to page @ColdFront to tell him the deep south may not be dead yet haha.
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Is there any strong ensemble support for mid May for this mid south/Ohio valley and potentially deep south threat? Or is this the GFS throwing a hail Mary lol?
Hail Mary 2025-style!
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Interestingly, for today, NAM shows more aggressive convection and HRRR is kinda anemic about it. In either case, environment will be fairly ripe, and any storms that do occur may produce hail, potentially large, winds and maybe a tornado. Slight Risk for much of the Southeast today.
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Jeez, the GFS needs to chill out. I'm counting at least 4 days with Supercell Composite over 10 being modeled by the 06z alone.
Interestingly, the new 12z GFS doesn't look quite as impressive from the 500 mb map standpoint, but is lit up like a christmas tree for supercell composite over a very large area on multiple days, moreso than the 06z run. It still maintains the big longwave trough coming in, it's just not quite as robust as the 06z run.
 
Is there any strong ensemble support for mid May for this mid south/Ohio valley and potentially deep south threat? Or is this the GFS throwing a hail Mary lol?
You can kind of see the EPS ensembles trend to a more zonal flow with the second long wave starting on the 16th per the 00z run. You can make out a jet ejecting out into the usual suspects. Arkansas, LA, Mississippi, and western TN. Alabama would likely be in the action if that materialized too with a glancing blow.

The 00z operational Euro wasn’t very impressive
 
You can kind of see the EPS ensembles trend to a more zonal flow with the second long wave starting on the 16th per the 00z run. You can make out a jet ejecting out into the usual suspects. Arkansas, LA, Mississippi, and western TN. Alabama would likely be in the action if that materialized too with a glancing blow.

The 00z operational Euro wasn’t very impressive
It seems very often that modelled setups during May that appear to impact areas east of the Plains often end up evaporating once you get within a few days of things (moreso than in early spring). Not that this necessarily applies here, but it definitely seems like a trend, and might be related to the same statistical biases that can cause the various long-range experimental ML probabilities to spit out aggressive numbers that never come to fruition - perhaps it's the elevated thermodynamics this time of year, I dunno.
 
I don’t put a lot of stock in operational runs at this range, but it wants to put the primary low on the 15th up around Montana. If you watched Trey’s video on one of the plains bu$ts from last year, a low meandering that far away from the plains can be detrimental for a tornado outbreak. You usually like for it to be in the Colorado vicinity and eject northeast.

Edit: should add, this is the 00Z Euro
 
It seems very often that modelled setups during May that appear to impact areas east of the Plains often end up evaporating once you get within a few days of things (moreso than in early spring). Not that this necessarily applies here, but it definitely seems like a trend, and might be related to the same statistical biases that can cause the various long-range experimental ML probabilities to spit out aggressive numbers that never come to fruition - perhaps it's the elevated thermodynamics this time of year, I dunno.
This is spot on and something I couldn’t have said better. That would be my bet, I know big long wave troughs aren’t necessarily rare in mid to late May, but it triggering an extensive outbreak east of the plains would be unique. My current guess is as we get closer the threat may ratchet up for the plains, but will fall apart for the Ohio/TN valleys
 
This is spot on and something I couldn’t have said better. That would be my bet, I know big long wave troughs aren’t necessarily rare in mid to late May, but it triggering an extensive outbreak east of the plains would be unique. My current guess is as we get closer the threat may ratchet up for the plains, but will fall apart for the Ohio/TN valleys
If the ensembles start picking this up there may be some smoke to this threat
 
If the ensembles start picking this up there may be some smoke to this threat
It can definitely happen, but historically has been fairly rare. We fairly often will get some of the leftovers of Plains events, but those are usually relatively low-end. Granted, I would much rather May outbreaks remain rare in the Deep South, don't really wanna see what May thermos can do.
 
I think it’s quite similar in some ways, but it isn’t quite the same. They both are smaller (still intense) troughs that transition into long waves, but as of right now the trough from 3/14-3/16 was 1) much more progressive, but 2) a much stronger trough with a more intense jet streak. We aren’t close enough to see specifics with moisture return and the exact geometry of the trough either, but anything with that general shape is worrisome as we get closer.

Overall the two big things that worry me about this one are the fact that it’s so slowly moving, and the flow in the exit region is very zonal as of right now, much more zonal than the trough from 3/14-16. However, the somewhat weaker jet streak and looks-to-be-slower translational speed of the jet streak in this trough is the only thing that isn’t overly impressive to me, at least not yet. More time is needed to see how this evolves, but I don’t like the look of it one bit.

Also, I’m not a MET so take what I say with a grain of salt. I want to hear others input who are more qualified than me.

EDIT: The jet streak when moving through the Deep South is very quick though - worth watching for sure. It will most certainly change though, as that’s near the end of the model cycle.
I had a dream last night that the SPC had two 30% risks back to back for days 7 and 8
 
Omg, derp. All that data I just posted was from the 00Z runs. Not sure why my NEXLAB loaded those instead of the current runs. Deleted those comments.
 
Yeah. Like I said, it’s not entirely unprecedented (one example would be June 2-3, 1990 Ohio Valley outbreak), but it’s not common and is actually rare. Another good example would be the late May 2011 high risk east of the plains.
Was 5/31/1985 a large longwave, or was that a different setup entirely? That one seems to stand out to me as a strange mega outbreak that occurred really late in the season, unusually displaced well into the northeast.
 
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