Severe WX May 19-20, 2022 Severe Event

[Peter Griffin]

Gaylord tornado rated EF-3

Wow wasn't expecting EF3 I figured EF2 tops. Must be some worse damage I haven't seen pictures of yet.

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[Taylor Campbell]

Two tornado warnings outside of severe thunderstorm watch in AR.

 

[buckeye05]

Wow wasn't expecting EF3 I figured EF2 tops. Must be some worse damage I haven't seen pictures of yet.

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I saw at least one business that was flattened, and a few other structures had some collapsed exterior walls, but overall yeah I was expecting high-end EF2.

 

[MNTornadoGuy]

Now the strongest MI tornado of the EF-scale era

 

[buckeye05]

Now the strongest MI tornado of the EF-scale era

The second strongest was the Dexter, MI EF3 of 2012 if I remember correctly, and that one was a big surprise as well.

 

[Taylor Campbell]

Watch out south of Holly Springs Village, AR.

 

[TornadoFan]

Watch out south of Holly Springs Village, AR.

That one might be putting something down.

 

[atrainguy]

The second strongest was the Dexter, MI EF3 of 2012 if I remember correctly, and that one was a big surprise as well.

There was another EF3 in 2007 in Eaton County that was rated as having max winds of 140mph (Dexter was 135-140mph).

https://data.lansingstatejournal.com/tornado-archive/michigan/56789/

 

[Equus]

Looks like one EF3 damage point in the commercial district and two in the residential area on the east side of town, was kinda expecting 130ish so am interested in seeing the methodology; must have found something more impressive that most of the photos have missed

 

[buckeye05]

This is the house in Gaylord that the 150 MPH estimate was given to.

 

[Equus]

At first I thought that was one of the small poorly built looking houses in town but that seems to be a larger home of newer construction, with only a bit of interior walls left and much of the rest slabbed that's probably good for the 150

 

[Sawmaster]

The subfloor stayed put, but apparently the walls were only nailed down. And the stud end seen on the right shows 2 end nails. Not a good call by the survey folks at all

Phil

 

[buckeye05]

I'm ok with EF3 considering how much of the house is gone, but 150 MPH seems a little high given the apparent lack of anchoring and obvious subflooring-related structural issues. I wouldn't call it as egregious as something like the Newnan, GA "EF4" though.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

Yeah, it looks somewhere in the high-end EF2 to mid EF3 range. I didn't notice that many connections to the foundation either. The 150 mph EF3 rating may be lenient but not egregious like Buckeye05 said for the Newnan tornado from last year.

 

[Sawmaster]

I can't be contented with "close enough" or "a little bit in error". If you're going to do it "exactly by the book" as the engineers did in Mayfield then do it here too; there are clear and concise instructions on assessing this. If you're not going to follow your own instructions then they become invalid and you need to admit that and choose a different course. You can't have it both ways.

End of my rant, there's a thread for discussing this here: https://talkweather.com/threads/enhanced-fujita-ratings-debate-thread.270/

Phil

 

[TH2002]

Looks like the Nottingham Forest Mobile Home Park in Gaylord was hit particularly hard. This is where the fatalities occurred.

 

[warneagle]

For reference this mobile home park is one block over from the shopping center with the Hobby Lobby, etc. that was severely damaged.

 

[warneagle]

Looks like one EF3 damage point in the commercial district and two in the residential area on the east side of town, was kinda expecting 130ish so am interested in seeing the methodology; must have found something more impressive that most of the photos have missed

The first EF2 rated house is like, a block from my mother-in-law's house. Wow.

 

[Sawmaster]

Just got this new vid in my feed...