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2025 Political Thread

Got online today after waking up and at first was upset by the lack of indignant coverage of this bunker-busting and other Trumpeteer stuff (there is, of course, ordinary news coverage), as there would have been, by the ton, had the media approach been the same as it was during my youth and early to mid adulthood, which of course has conditioned, though not totally controlled, my own responses.

The number of feel-good, fun, and fluff articles ticked me off a bit, actually. This was over all the online major wire services that I follow and the BBC (which I'm going to cut back on for a while as they're starting to give me a severe case of the Spirit of '76).

Only gradually has the realization sunk in this evening that, because editors are not fools, this approach, so widespread before a major US summer holiday and so typical, indicates that most of their readers -- who are in younger generations than mine -- probably ARE responding to all the Trumpeteer-related stuff, including counter reactions, and in an appropriate way, too: meeting this occasion of hatred with an absence of hate.

I'm not worried about the country any more. Folks who are 21 today will be my current age when its Tricentennial rolls around and I think y'all will have as many good things (and heartbreaks) to look back on as I and mine do. :)

Not really related, but still --

 
All dancing Chris Pratts aside ;) , and even the IRL obscenity of the US DHS Secretary's social media lecture outside that hellhole, it is normalized, with recent SCOTUS approval, to ship our undesireables -- the definition will change with time (M. Niemoller) -- to such places and then to take no responsibility for what happens to them next.

Such Evil is beyond the reach of politics (as well as technical US jurisdiction, though still dependent on US $$'s both legal and corrupt). It can only be countered by individual and society-wide strong commitment to Good and then by no one's flinching during the subsequently unavoidable clash with Evil.

That's my definition of normal anyway, olde fartesse though I am and therefore pretty much out of it.

I was raised by generations who did that, or tried to do that (they were human, not perfect, but they had had a solid vision of Good pounded into their heads and hearts by family, society, and media).

Twice, on a global scale. Without Captain America steroids.

They failed, as Kurt Vonnegut and others testified. J.R.R. Tolkien, a Catholic who included God in his Middle-Earth writings, would have called that the triumph of the machine.

But they also gained a happy ending, most of them believing that it was possible, as the many positives of the past 80 years show.

My generation rebelled and refused to pass that same reinforcement of Good forward to following generations, arguing that the many human flaws that failed to be Good actually made Good worthless.

It was stupid and unintentionally cruel of us to expect our descendants to discover for themselves all the Good things that our own ancestors had drilled into us, but we were blinded by our brilliance. Sigh.

Yet some Good got passed along anyway.

Now Evil is trying a comeback, imitating a camel's nose poking through the tent flap.

And we all are back on the horns of the eternal dilemma.

The USA is still the most recent, best, and brightest hope for all mankind, just as it always has been since even before it was called that by a US president in the 1860s.

It doesn't need to be "made great." It is great.

But we all might get some benefit from measuring ourselves against those Americans who have come before us and occasionally succeeded in doing great things, believing as they did in Good.

Sorry for the rant. I don't know much meteorology but can say a little intelligent stuff about geology (and cats/dogs, but that's waay off topic), and would prefer to do that all the time, but the current situation upsets me sometimes.
 
So I'm puzzled. The Republicans and a lot of people on the Republican side pushed the Epstein client list. And now there saying there's nothing there. After that was a focal point for some peoples campaigns. I'm confused
 
At this point, they’re basically lying straight to our faces while we can clearly see wrongdoing going on in the background - the people who were in charge of this “investigation” know that the general population is A) quite dumb, and B) won’t do anything about it regardless of what they say. This past week has been a shining example of the pay-to-win nature of this country, first with the hogwash of a decision that was P Diddy’s convictions, and now this. Anyone who genuinely believed the Epstein list was going to be released from an administration fully entrenched in the crimes committed there is painfully ignorant at best and straight up braindead at worst. Like, when I thought of criminals that were supposedly “dead to rights” I think of Diddy, but since he’s got money he gets a slap on the wrist - so did everyone on the list that supposedly now doesn’t exist! Nothing’s going to happen, unfortunately.
 
slenker said:
At this point, they’re basically lying straight to our faces while we can clearly see wrongdoing going on in the background - the people who were in charge of this “investigation” know that the general population is A) quite dumb, and B) won’t do anything about it regardless of what they say. This past week has been a shining example of the pay-to-win nature of this country, first with the hogwash of a decision that was P Diddy’s convictions, and now this. Anyone who genuinely believed the Epstein list was going to be released from an administration fully entrenched in the crimes committed there is painfully ignorant at best and straight up braindead at worst. Like, when I thought of criminals that were supposedly “dead to rights” I think of Diddy, but since he’s got money he gets a slap on the wrist - so did everyone on the list that supposedly now doesn’t exist! Nothing’s going to happen, unfortunately.
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We live in a world were the likes of Diddy actually just receiving probation even though all of the evidence of crimes is a possibility unfortunately.
 
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