2025 Political Thread

[Evan]

Credit spreads were a bit nasty on Friday but they could start blowing out tomorrow. This is not short-term pain. This is the makings of something that has long-term impacts that won't be easy to recover from. Even if the admin backs down tomorrow, it is very likely that permanent damage has been done.

 

[Evan]

Circuit breakers being triggered seems very plausible at this point. It was hilarious to watch the administration's sycophants claim this is merely a Wall Street problem. When you torch trillions of capital like this it always impacts "Main Street."

Unless this admin backs down very soon and admits they made a serious mistake the job losses are going to be extreme. Every level of the economy will be impacted. We will become a much poorer country with a significantly lower standard of living.

Congress must act immediately with a veto proof majority.

 

[Evan]

NASDAQ futures down almost 5%.

 

[UpperLevelLOL]

It really is incredible just how bad our economy has suffered in a mere 80 days or so, and I fear we’re only just beginning.

 

[Evan]

Selling pressure is immense. Lot of futures contracts being sold.

 

[Evan]

Someone explain to me how torching over 12 trillion in equity value is a good trade for an annual trade deficit of one trillion?

Not sure how many t-shirt and spatula factories it would take to get that 12 trillion back, however, I am sure we don't have enough American workers to staff them. Especially when the average wage paid would have to be sub fast food level to even be remotely competitive.

 

[maroonedinhsv]

Anyone willing to take a quiz?

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My result was

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You aren’t willing to actually discuss topics, why would we want to do your silly social media quiz?

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

@Anti Marine Layer Just curious... do you know what Pravda actually is, without googling it?

It means "truth", and it was the official newspaper of the Soviet Union.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

You are incredibly wrong. It is 100% false that TPS requires someone to enter the country illegally. It's the biggest lie I've ever seen someone make in this thread. You can get TPS after being here legally on a plethora of different visa types.

You should stop making claims about things that are patently false. It's either dangerous ignorance or outright trolling.

A U.S. Citizen cannot be under Temporary Protected Status. When my mom came here fleeing from communism in Czechoslovakia, she applied for U.S. Citizenship ASAP. She assimilated to the American culture. She did not rely on welfare programs and free stuff from the government.

Also places like Haiti, which are TPS nations, have conditions which are unlikely to ever get better. Temporary protected status is supposed to be temporary. People from Somalia have been under TPS for 34 years.

 

[Evan]

A U.S. Citizen cannot be under Temporary Protected Status. When my mom came here fleeing from communism in Czechoslovakia, she applied for U.S. Citizenship ASAP. She assimilated to the American culture. She did not rely on welfare programs and free stuff from the government.

Also places like Haiti, which are TPS nations, have conditions which are unlikely to ever get better. Temporary protected status is supposed to be temporary. People from Somalia have been under TPS for 34 years.

No one said anything about US citizens. You don't seem to remotely understand how immigration works. You claimed TPS means someone entered illegally. That's simply false. You are now saying something about US citizens and their immigration status. US citizens are citizens. I am beyond confused as to what you are talking about. TPS doesn't require you to be here illegally or legally. It merely has to do with your body being physically present here.

Please try to learn even the slightest bit of knowledge on a topic before making wild and provably false claims.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

No one said anything about US citizens. You don't seem to remotely understand how immigration works. You claimed TPS means someone entered illegally. That's simply false. You are now saying something about US citizens and their immigration status. US citizens are citizens. I am beyond confused as to what you are talking about. TPS doesn't require you to be here illegally or legally. It merely has to do with your body being physically present here.

Please try to learn even the slightest bit of knowledge on a topic before making wild and provably false claims.

Some people who are here on TPS may have entered the country illegally. This is from Wikipedia.

Sanchez v. Mayorkas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With the Immigration Act of 1990 and other laws passed since then, Congress gave the United States Attorney General authority to designate temporary protected status (TPS) for immigrants, regardless of how they arrived in the U.S., from countries where they would unable to return safely due situations to such as warfare or environmental disasters, as a humanitarian effort. One's TPS status remains active as long as the country is maintained on the Attorney General's list. As of 2021, about 400,000 immigrants have TPS status.[1]

Jose Sanchez and Sonia Gonzales unlawfully entered the U.S. from El Salvador in 1997 and 1998, respectively. Following the January and February 2001 earthquakes in their native country, the couple applied for and received TPS. They continued to live in the U.S. in New Jersey, raising a family of four, with their youngest becoming a U.S. citizen. In 2014, the couple opted to apply for their green cards to become permanent residents. Citizenship and Immigration Services denied their application, stating that as the couple did not enter the country lawfully, they could not apply for permanent status.[1]

If their home country has a humanitarian crisis, then can apply for TPS even if they entered the country illegally. So you could come in illegally from a Third World Country, like Haiti which is under TPS due to a humanitarian crisis that may never end and they can keep renewing it.

Also, whoever said liberals are 100% truthful? When a conservative says something that's not 100% truthful, it's like the most horrible thing possible.

 

[UpperLevelLOL]

Also, whoever said liberals are 100% truthful? When a conservative says something that's not 100% truthful, it's like the most horrible thing possible.

Literally no one said this. There you go again, tilting at windmills and attacking some hypothetical liberals who aren’t here on this board, all in an effort to try to hide or justify your ignorance.

 

[bjdeming]

Unless this admin backs down very soon and admits they made a serious mistake the job losses are going to be extreme. Every level of the economy will be impacted. We will become a much poorer country with a significantly lower standard of living.

Congress must act immediately with a veto proof majority.

Yes.

The AP over the weekend quoted influential Republicans as saying they were giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, that this was just a negotiation tactic.

At best, then, it was an excuse for political cowardice. Now it's no excuse at all.

 

[Mike S]

We still have about 3 weeks to go, but it may already be safe to say that this may be the worst first 100 Days of any President ever. At least the worst since Lincoln.

Also, 100 Days is a terrible metric, but I don't make the rules.

 

[Evan]

Some people who are here on TPS may have entered the country illegally. This is from Wikipedia.

Sanchez v. Mayorkas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If their home country has a humanitarian crisis, then can apply for TPS even if they entered the country illegally. So you could come in illegally from a Third World Country, like Haiti which is under TPS due to a humanitarian crisis that may never end and they can keep renewing it.

Also, whoever said liberals are 100% truthful? When a conservative says something that's not 100% truthful, it's like the most horrible thing possible.

Dude, I already said someone who entered illegally can be eligible for TPS. Did you read my post or what I linked?

You are the one who claimed YOU HAVE to enter illegally to obtain TPS which is totally false.

 

[Evan]

Remember how the admin claimed lowering the 10 year rate was part of the rationale for the tariffs? It is now back to where it was before the market crashed. Trillions evaporated and we can't refinance our debt any lower than before. But, we're about 12-20 Trillion poorer as a nation than before. Treasury holdings are being dumped by foreign entities as a result of the tariffs hence why yields have skyrocketed today.

The market is basically uninvestable right now with the amount of volatility in it. And that volatility directly emanates from the mouth of one man. That's why we don't have a monarchy. That's why we fought a war for independence. One man is NOT supposed to have the power to create or destroy trillions in wealth with a random tweet. Congress is beyond derelict at their job. Embarrassing.

 

[andyhb]

What the actual hell...

 

[andyhb]

Trump administration asks Supreme Court to block order to return Maryland man from El Salvador

The Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to block a court order requiring it to bring back to the United States a Maryland man who was sent to a notorious prison in El Salvador.

apnews.com

Same story on AP news, screw the economy, this should be the biggest story on all major news outlets right now. If the administration is allowed to disappear people without due process, this country and its ideals are done.

And yes, as a matter of fact, that is what the Nazis did in the 1930s.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Hmmm ....





But the snowflakes on the left (and some even who are Republicans) who care more about illegal immigrants than America citizens will continue to make themselves known throughout April. Keep burning those Teslas.

 

[ghost]

Some people who are here on TPS may have entered the country illegally. This is from Wikipedia.

Sanchez v. Mayorkas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If their home country has a humanitarian crisis, then can apply for TPS even if they entered the country illegally. So you could come in illegally from a Third World Country, like Haiti which is under TPS due to a humanitarian crisis that may never end and they can keep renewing it.

Also, whoever said liberals are 100% truthful? When a conservative says something that's not 100% truthful, it's like the most horrible thing possible.

So you admit lying in your posts… par for the course for maga