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2025 Political Thread

Trump is abolishing the Department of Leftist Indoctrination, though I'm not sure how much that will help, since the woke have taken over the private schools too. It will give the libs more things to melt down about.

Harry's mother: So Harry, what did you learn in school today?
Harry: I'm a girl because I like pink and my new name is Sally. My teacher said I wasn't supposed to tell you that.
Harry's mother: Yuck! What else did you learn?
Harry: Capitalism is evil because it created white privilege.
Harry's mother: Oh my! How was math class?
Harry: They don't do that anymore because to suggest that 2+2 has one right answer is a relic of white supremacy.
Harry's mother: Oh no! Do they still teach you the alphabet song?
Harry: Yes!
(Singing) LGBTQIA DEI CRT ESG BLM BIPOC. I know my social justice ABCs. Now go defund the police with me.
Harry's mother: That's it. We're homeschooling you from now on.
 
UpperLevelLOL said:
? What's the assumption? The data pretty clearly shows that folks with a lower educational attainment voted significantly more for Trump than Harris. How is that hypocritical?
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Here's the hypocrisy:

You wrote in response to @TVILLE96:
UpperLevelLOL said:
What a sad, hateful way to see the world, where you despise 50% of your fellow citizens for vague political reasons.
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Which is fair. But then you turn around and write this:

UpperLevelLOL said:
It's become a lot clearer why Trump does so well among voters with low education and low political knowledge.
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Which is you basically saying that you believe people who voted for Trump are generally less intelligent than people who voted for Kamala. So is it hateful to despise 50% of your fellow citizens for voting a certain way, or are 50% of your fellow citizens objectively dumber than you because they voted a certain way? You can't have it both ways.

As far as the educational divide among voters, I'm not going to touch that, because increasing political polarity among voting blocs is such a complex issue, and it's almost like there are more variables for determining intelligence than just whether or not someone has a college degree.
 
TH2002 said:
Here's the hypocrisy:

You wrote in response to @TVILLE96:

Which is fair. But then you turn around and write this:


Which is you basically saying that you believe people who voted for Trump are generally less intelligent than people who voted for Kamala. So is it hateful to despise 50% of your fellow citizens for voting a certain way, or are 50% of your fellow citizens objectively dumber than you because they voted a certain way? You can't have it both ways.

As far as the educational divide among voters, I'm not going to touch that, because increasing political polarity among voting blocs is such a complex issue, and it's almost like there are more variables for determining intelligence than just whether or not someone has a college degree.
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Please don’t put words in my mouth. I did not call anyone dumb. Less educated doesn’t mean “dumber,” it literally means having less education. Numerous studies show that less educational attainment makes folks more likely to vote for the GOP, a trend that has accelerated in the last few cycles.
 
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UpperLevelLOL said:
Please don’t put words in my mouth. I did not call anyone dumb. Less educated doesn’t mean “dumber,” it literally means having less education. Numerous studies show that less educational attainment makes folks more likely to vote for the GOP, a trend that has accelerated in the last few cycles.
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Ummm, you said “low political knowledge”. Lacking knowledge is pretty much the definition of “dumb”.
 
maroonedinhsv said:
Ummm, you said “low political knowledge”. Lacking knowledge is pretty much the definition of “dumb”.
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No, “political knowledge” is basically how well do you know the political system (I.e. who your representatives are, when elections are, the basics of the system like the filibuster, etc.). Folks can be pretty smart and just not care about politics.

Here’s an example of a poll about political knowledge. Not knowing how long a senate term is doesn’t make you dumb. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/11/07/what-americans-know-about-their-government/
 
maroonedinhsv said:
Ummm, you said “low political knowledge”. Lacking knowledge is pretty much the definition of “dumb”.
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Hate to butt in, but having a lack of knowledge is not the same as being dumb - being dumb or stupid is the inability to use knowledge you already hold efficiently. Just because I don’t know a certain thing about a niche topic doesn’t make me dumb in said topic, it makes me uninformed.
 
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UpperLevelLOL said:
Please don’t put words in my mouth. I did not call anyone dumb. Less educated doesn’t mean “dumber,” it literally means having less education. Numerous studies show that less educational attainment makes folks more likely to vote for the GOP, a trend that has accelerated in the last few cycles.
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Intentional or not, calling people dumb is basically what you were alluding to - especially in the context that you posted "Trump does well with voters that have lower education" in response to another user's posts.
 
TH2002 said:
Intentional or not, calling people dumb is basically what you were alluding to - especially in the context that you posted "Trump does well with voters that have lower education" in response to another user's posts.
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Not at all, unless you’re claiming that more educated people are smarter?
 
UpperLevelLOL said:
Not at all, unless you’re claiming that more educated people are smarter?
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I'm not "claiming" anything, and you still haven't answered my original question.

Again, you said "It's become a lot clearer why Trump does so well among voters with low education and low political knowledge" in response to another user's posts. What was said response alluding to? We know what your statistics show - what point are you trying to make with them?
 
TH2002 said:
I'm not "claiming" anything, and you still haven't answered my original question.

Again, you said "It's become a lot clearer why Trump does so well among voters with low education and low political knowledge" in response to another user's posts. What was said response alluding to? We know what your statistics show - what point are you trying to make with them?
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I did not say that “in response to another user’s posts.” I did not quote anyone or call anyone out in that post. Again, please stop putting words in my mouth or try to twist my posts beyond their intent. My comment was a general observation on Trump’s moves and cuts, especially since they’re targeted against places of education and science (NIH, NOAA, Columbia University, Department of Education, etc.) Given that his base either doesn’t have experience with these institutions or just doesn’t know or care that this is going on, the degree and political knowledge gap makes sense.
 
UpperLevelLOL said:
I did not say that “in response to another user’s posts.” I did not quote anyone or call anyone out in that post. Again, please stop putting words in my mouth or try to twist my posts beyond their intent. My comment was a general observation on Trump’s moves and cuts, especially since they’re targeted against places of education and science (NIH, NOAA, Columbia University, Department of Education, etc.) Given that his base either doesn’t have experience with these institutions or just doesn’t know or care that this is going on, the degree and political knowledge gap makes sense.
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I see. Still, the timing of your initial post made it look like it was a low key jab at TVILLE96 (and Trump voters in general) even if that wasn't your intention. Mistake on my part.

Consider choosing your words more wisely next time. I think that most people looking at your original post (regardless of political affiliation) would have jumped to a similar conclusion.
 
UpperLevelLOL said:
Are you saying Kristof, a Pulitzer-prize winning journalist with decades of experience in the developing world, made this story up? Do you have any evidence of that, or are you just rejecting it because it doesn't align with your political views?
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Trump is trashing your NY Times this morning. LOL ! They published another fake story this week.
 
Odd how the presumably real basis for these cuts has to come out publicly outside the US:

Researchers advised not to respond to US questionnaire​


19 March 2025
Researchers who have received a questionnaire containing political questions from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) or other American government funders such as NIH or ARPA are advised not to respond...
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Note the call at the end to stand together. We American non-oligarchs/Non-Nomenklatura -- the vast majority, IOW -- need to find a way to do that, too, and before 2028: if Trumpeteers get away with this, the Democrat branch of the oligarchy is going to do it, too, and that trashing will just get worse with time.
 
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Way too much stupid sniping back and forth in here when things like this are happening.
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At least they didn't close any SSA offices here in Oregon, so I won't have travel issues if they refuse to help me online (though from what I understand of the news, the online features I use shouldn't be affected -- with Co-President Elon calling it a Ponzi scheme, though, I'd better skip lunches this month and buy a set of chainsaw chaps).
 
bjdeming said:
Борщ хорош. Большой Брат хорош. Сила права, и — пожалуйста, кто-нибудь, *прекратите этот шум*!
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"Позвоните в Вашингтон...Hi, Donald? Those pesky singers have got backup. Can you call...WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU'RE A BIG FAN OF THE ROYAL FAMILY!!!???!$%!?"

(Yes, it's Google Translate, though I did take a semester or two of Russian back in 1970, and today I just couldn't resist after seeing that article. No more, promise.)
 
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