Severe WX April 29-May 2nd, 2022 Severe Weather Threat

[Shakespeare 2016]

that one slabbed metal show room near the ymca has been given a 165mph rating so far. the whole tornado is still EF3+ on the dat. so an EF4 rating is still on the table.

That is also the area where trees were mostly to completely stripped of their bark. It is the area where I found part of a tree branch that was completely stripped of its bark.

 

[tornado examiner]

do you have a wide image of that area?

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

if homes with multiple walls standing are receiving 165mph EF3 ratings. that either means the homes are very well built....or the nws is being lazy lol.

I initially rated the YMCA a mid to high-end EF2 and it was rated a low-end EF3. I worked out there.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

do you have a wide image of that area?

I couldn’t get a better picture of that area because it has been blocked off by workers cleaning up the debris.

 

[tornado examiner]

well i hope to see it

 

[CheeselandSkies]

I hadn't really looked at Monday, since I spent most of yesterday chasing around northern Illinois (saw some photogenic garden-variety thunderstorms but nothing too exciting, although I was about 20 miles south of the EF0 tornado as it occurred in Boone County, I never could catch up to it before the warning expired not that I would have been able to see anything anyway as it was a heavily rain-wrapped comma head structure and not a classic supercell).


Let's just say the 18Z HRRR is rather alarming for the OK/KS border region and points north.

 

[Equus]

Neat collision between a slow right mover and a speeding left split

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

I hadn't really looked at Monday, since I spent most of yesterday chasing around northern Illinois (saw some photogenic garden-variety thunderstorms but nothing too exciting, although I was about 20 miles south of the EF0 tornado as it occurred in Boone County, I never could catch up to it before the warning expired not that I would have been able to see anything anyway as it was a heavily rain-wrapped comma head structure and not a classic supercell).


Let's just say the 18Z HRRR is rather alarming for the OK/KS border region and points north.

The temp is going to be mainly 67F to 69F which is not that high for May. Dews will be pretty high though. I think south of Wichita would be the better area.

 

[TornadoFan]

Brad Arnold has one near Fort Stockton. From his stream:

 

[atrainguy]

I'm guessing this is the same one as above.

 

[Brice Wood]

Looks like the SPC extended the enhanced risk to include western parts of Missouri but the hatched 10% tornado risk is still in central and northern Oklahoma and south central Kansas.

 

[SouthFLwx]

Looks like the SPC extended the enhanced risk to include western parts of Missouri but the hatched 10% tornado risk is still in central and northern Oklahoma and south central Kansas.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they put a very small 15# area in south Kansas.

 

[Brice Wood]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they put a very small 15# area in south Kansas.

depends on how these supercells and the future line will be able to stabilize the atmosphere for tmr

 

[CheeselandSkies]

Hot off the 00Z NAM for SE Kansas tomorrow...oof. Not sure how significant this is but I've rarely seen that much 3KM CAPE on a NAM forecast sounding.

 

[buckeye05]

Explanation from Bradley Ketcham of NWS Wichita explaining why they went with high-end EF3 instead of EF4. Same conclusion I reached after looking at the DAT. Had one of the subfloors been ripped off though, it would have been rated EF4.

 

[Equus]

Always glad to have detailed reasoning on that, sometimes it's just left a mystery

 

[Sawmaster]

Gave it a "sad" not for the post but the shoddy construction. Sheesh, just a few minutes saved in building and people trusting it to be right get harmed. Makes me want to use my hammer to do some 'tornado damage' on the builders head.

Phil

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

Gave it a "sad" not for the post but the shoddy construction. Sheesh, just a few minutes saved in building and people trusting it to be right get harmed. Makes me want to use my hammer to do some 'tornado damage' on the builders head.

Phil

So you disagree with the survey?

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

Gave it a "sad" not for the post but the shoddy construction. Sheesh, just a few minutes saved in building and people trusting it to be right get harmed. Makes me want to use my hammer to do some 'tornado damage' on the builders head.

Phil

Also what about the one building that was swept away with anchor bolts. It's shoddy construction. We like to hand out as few EF4 and EF5 ratings as possible to make the politicians happy. Also try to tell me the difference between a 165 mph EF3 and a 170 mph EF4? Sorry I am obsessed with tornado ratings because I have high functioning autism and it means a lot to me.

 

[buckeye05]

Also what about the one building that was swept away with anchor bolts. It's shoddy construction. We like to hand out as few EF4 and EF5 ratings as possible to make the politicians happy.

He gave a detailed explanation of the slabbed pet shop's construction flaws just the other day. That's a type of building that is vulnerable to progressive structural failure, meaning once one part of the structure fails and wind gets inside, the whole structure goes. Any kind of building that lacks interior walls is susceptible to that type of failure. Something tells me if this wasn't in your backyard, you wouldn't be pushing back against the high-end EF3 rating so much.

Also, what about "making politicians happy"? Please elaborate. I'd love to here some actual details and evidence of this alleged correlation between low tornado ratings and the agenda of US politicians. I'd love for you to explain to me what the actual motive is, and demonstrate that you aren't just parroting things you have heard from other people without any evidence or understanding what the allegations actually entail. Can you?