Significant Tornado Events

[Aaron Rider]

Hello everyone. For my first post here I thought I better come with something good so here it is.
My unseen video stills from Lake City/Monette Arkansas 12/10/21.
I was CLOSE during the early stages, easily within a half a mile or less. (Lucky/blessed to be alive)
I Didn't comprehend the violent and tragic magnitude of this event until days later.

Welcome and thanks! These are terrifying yet amazing

 

[Central Ohio Wx]

FYI, I'm working on an April 27, 2011 media archival Google site at the moment (surprised this hasn't been done yet!); I'll post the link here once I've updated it to a point where there's a substantial amount of media included.

 

[Tanner]

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FYI, I'm working on an April 27, 2011 media archival Google site at the moment (surprised this hasn't been done yet!); I'll post the link here once I've updated it to a point where there's a substantial amount of media included.

Oh wow, yeah. I had thought about creating a URL for tornado data, but not any specific event. I look forward to seeing it when it's done!

 

[WeathermanLeprechaun]

These are supposedly photos of the wall cloud of the Lake Chilhowee/Great Smoky Mountain EF4 from 4/27/11. These were posted on Reddit, so take it with a grain of salt.

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First one is entirely legit, as looking for 4/27/11 media on FB, (I was a contributor to new videos like the Bridgeport one, but really finding a writers block eque regarding methods to find them) I stumbled across it and can find the original post if you want too.

Second one, I haven't seen it so can't have a opinion on whether it is or not. Looks a bit different in all aspects though.

 

[WeathermanLeprechaun]

Before i joined this forum, some of my 4/27/11 "resurfacing" got onto this forum. Perhaps my holy grail is these photos of the Hackleburg tornado, remnants. These didn't get onto the forum, a video of Bridgeport taken by Vicky West Westmoreland (which i FALSELY attributed to Hackleburg in its early days) got on. Very intense video no doubt! The DAT cut up two paths and these photos gave credible evidence to what Tornado Talk suggested about two tornadoes. I'm not sure if these photos were recognised by the office, or they used the AMS meeting that showed a lack of a TDS during this time.

 

[Central Ohio Wx]

Before i joined this forum, some of my 4/27/11 "resurfacing" got onto this forum. Perhaps my holy grail is these photos of the Hackleburg tornado, remnants. These didn't get onto the forum, a video of Bridgeport taken by Vicky West Westmoreland (which i FALSELY attributed to Hackleburg in its early days) got on. Very intense video no doubt! The DAT cut up two paths and these photos gave credible evidence to what Tornado Talk suggested about two tornadoes. I'm not sure if these photos were recognised by the office, or they used the AMS meeting that showed a lack of a TDS during this time.

I only know of one photo from Bridgeport at the moment, I'm assuming this is the one you're talking about:

I put it on the Wikipedia article several months ago.

 

[ColdFront]

Before i joined this forum, some of my 4/27/11 "resurfacing" got onto this forum. Perhaps my holy grail is these photos of the Hackleburg tornado, remnants. These didn't get onto the forum, a video of Bridgeport taken by Vicky West Westmoreland (which i FALSELY attributed to Hackleburg in its early days) got on. Very intense video no doubt! The DAT cut up two paths and these photos gave credible evidence to what Tornado Talk suggested about two tornadoes. I'm not sure if these photos were recognised by the office, or they used the AMS meeting that showed a lack of a TDS during this time.

Very nice find on that. I remember seeing your post on r/tornado if that was you. I don’t have an account nor post since that board (along with Reddit and social media as a whole) can be a cesspool with zero insightful contribution. However, this one blew my mind. Hopefully with you being a regular poster on here now, more of your 4/27/11 finds can show up here!

 

[ColdFront]

First one is entirely legit, as looking for 4/27/11 media on FB, (I was a contributor to new videos like the Bridgeport one, but really finding a writers block eque regarding methods to find them) I stumbled across it and can find the original post if you want too.

Second one, I haven't seen it so can't have an opinion on whether it is or not. Looks a bit different in all aspects though.

Re: the first picture. That’s a really cool find. The time of day in the photo tracks as well since that tornado happened around evening time.

I’ve seen a photo supposedly of the New Harmony EF4 tornado, but honestly I can’t even see it in the picture because of the terrain. Have you found any on that storm?

 

[Central Ohio Wx]

I’ve seen a photo supposedly of the New Harmony EF4 tornado, but honestly I can’t even see it in the picture because of the terrain. Have you found any on that storm?

Is it the "green"-tinted one? People always say that video shows the tornado itself, but I just don't see it.

 

[ColdFront]

Is it the "green"-tinted one? People always say that video shows the tornado itself, but I just don't see it.

Yes, that’s the one. To me it just looks like a low-cloud base thunderstorm in mountainous terrain.

Edit: here is the photo in question:

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

Yes, that’s the one. To me it just looks like a low-cloud base thunderstorm in mountainous terrain.

Edit: here is the photo in question:
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That's a pretty fuzzy copy of the OG:

On another note, going back to a post I made a long time ago...




it's so small

I'm pretty sure the tornado is there, but it is TINY and you have to jack the contrast quite a bit to see it. Just above center.

 

[WeathermanLeprechaun]

Very nice find on that. I remember seeing your post on r/tornado if that was you. I don’t have an account nor post since that board (along with Reddit and social media as a whole) can be a cesspool with zero insightful contribution. However, this one blew my mind. Hopefully with you being a regular poster on here now, more of your 4/27/11 finds can show up here!

Yeah, that was me haha! I'm glad you appreciate the posts. I'm currently in a bit of a writer blocks with finding these videos. Many methods don't seem to work as they did two years ago.

Regarding the New Harmony tornado, the only thing I've stumbled upon is the wall cloud of it. That photo there, i mightve seen before but i haven't searched for 4/27 media in a bit. Hackleburg media seems to be my specialty, I have many photos of Hackleburg including the wall cloud before it dropped near Hamilton and a close range photo of it a few minutes after touchdown similar to Lily Hartley's video. I might be pinching at things, but i think this photo HAS the "dead man walking" structure with it. Hopefully I can find more media very soon!

 

[WeathermanLeprechaun]

I only know of one photo from Bridgeport at the moment, I'm assuming this is the one you're talking about:
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I put it on the Wikipedia article several months ago.

I actually do know of a few more photos on FB with Bridgeport. I'll try dig them back up

 

[Lake Martin EF4]

I'd heard Brian Peters and Tim Coleman describe two tornadoes in progress as the storm approached Cordova during their live play-by-play for 33/40, but as far as I can tell no separate tornado was ever confirmed by survey in this area.

Just from this image, the tornadoes look too far apart and too similar in size to be a "main/satellite" pair, and it also doesn't look like an anticyclonic companion. Visually, it bears the strongest resemblance to a simple handoff/cycle, with the left tornado occluded and soon to dissipate (Peters/Coleman did report one of the tornadoes lifting not long after their observations began) and the right tornado recently formed and will intensify and continue through Cordova, Sumiton, Blountsville, etc.

If confirmed this would have split the track into separate EF3 and EF4 tornadoes; although per radar signatures the first tornado was extremely intense and likely violent during much of its track from just northeast of Reform to somewhere just south or southeast of Berry.

Speaking of, I think the Wikipedia article photo for this tornado must be captioned wrong; since, officially, it wasn't at EF4 intensity until past Cordova.

There was indeed a continuous centerline throughout the entire main suspect area, so it is likely this was just a chaotic satellite period.

 

[Asha627]

Where'd you get these?

Found them on an older newspaper

 

[TH2002]

Some more stuff from Joplin...

Another angle of the home from photos #3 and #5 in my previous post. Interesting application of a 5 here, not exactly swept clean, though it was anchored. Maybe this is a case where some of the debris on the slab was from neighboring homes?


Aerial of damage northeast of St. Johns. The two swept homes left of S Connor Ave (road at bottom center) were rated EF5.


Block foundation, anchored home swept clean on the other side of S Connor Ave

Aerial of the EF5 rated home on Main St

 

[Kds86z]

Some more stuff from Joplin...

Another angle of the home from photos #3 and #5 in my previous post. Interesting application of a 5 here, not exactly swept clean, though it was anchored. Maybe this is a case where some of the debris on the slab was from neighboring homes?
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Aerial of damage northeast of St. Johns. The two swept homes left of S Connor Ave (road at bottom center) were rated EF5.


Block foundation, anchored home swept clean on the other side of S Connor Ave
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Aerial of the EF5 rated home on Main St
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Where was it I heard that Joplin may not have been correctly rated with its EF5 rating. I don’t think it was EF4 but I saw it somewhere.

 

[TH2002]

Where was it I heard that Joplin may not have been correctly rated with its EF5 rating. I don’t think it was EF4 but I saw it somewhere.

That's the ASCE report that has been discussed here many times.

Joplin's EF4+ damage swath was about a quarter mile wide. And to say that 135MPH (EF2) winds can level entire blocks of frame homes - some of them well built and anchor bolted - is a crock of s**t.

That study (along with others) is what got the ball rolling to set an impossibly high, engineering-only standard (e.g. a house has to be built like a fortress) for an EF5 rating to be assigned. And we all know that's why the 'EF5 drought' even happened.

The bottom line: Joplin was an EF5. Period.

 

[Christopher Robert]

Can anyone identify this violent looking tornado? Someone on Twitter said it might be from Texas June 8 1995 but to me it looks more like Red Rock 1991.

 

[Shelby]

Robinson was moving faster and had a similar/faster rotational velocity, so i find it pretty unlikely Smithville was stronger, even at peak intensity.

I am curious when you say Robinson was moving faster. Are you referring to forward speed? What was the forward speed of the Robinson tornado?