Significant Tornado Events

[Central Ohio Wx]

In my opinion, the 1925 Tri-State F5 probably looked very similar to the Wichita Falls F4 while it was in MO, and like the Hackleburg and Yazoo City tornadoes in IL and IN. I still believe there are images out there of this beast that simply have remained in basements.


Yazoo City (edited to look like a pre-color image)

Hackleburg (edited to look like a pre-color image; tried my best lol)

 

[ColdFront]

Speaking of Hackleburg/PC, I didn’t realize just how much Vilonia physically resembled it. Especially when H/PC was in the Tanner area. Both really had that boiling cloud/ground scraping wall cloud look.

H/PC:




Vilonia:

 

[slenker]

Speaking of Hackleburg/PC, I didn’t realize just how much Vilonia physically resembled it. Especially when H/PC was in the Tanner area. Both really had that boiling cloud/ground scraping wall cloud look.

Is it fair to say that Vilonia was every bit as powerful as many of the violent tornadoes from 4/27/11? The damage imagery I see from Vilonia is always supremely impressive to me, and really does remind me of damage from Ringgold, Tuscaloosa, or Rainsville. It’s especially odd to me that 4/27/14 was full of far less powerful tornadoes than 4/27/11, yet contained that monster.

 

[ColdFront]

Is it fair to say that Vilonia was every bit as powerful as many of the violent tornadoes from 4/27/11? The damage imagery I see from Vilonia is always supremely impressive to me, and really does remind me of damage from Ringgold, Tuscaloosa, or Rainsville. It’s especially odd to me that 4/27/14 was full of far less powerful tornadoes than 4/27/11, yet contained that monster.

I would definitely agree it was on par with some of the tornados you listed from that day.

 

[joshoctober16]

Speaking of Hackleburg/PC, I didn’t realize just how much Vilonia physically resembled it. Especially when H/PC was in the Tanner area. Both really had that boiling cloud/ground scraping wall cloud look.

H/PC:
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when i hear the boiling cloud on the ground , in my mind sounds more like a pyroclastic flow.

i say this because there was one of the cope landspouts (might be a hybrid) that turned into a strange downwards pyroclastic tumbling boiling look



look at the left one at 0:30 to 0:38



heck bridge creek 1999 did this when it went from wedge to stovepipe in bridge creek.
at 6:30 to 7:30 , harder to see since its lower quality and fuzzy looking.

 

[joshoctober16]

Tri state 1925 from what i can see was 3 main tornadoes along with some satellites or twins during the main EF5


at its max width was likely over 2+ mile wide



there were momments of what appears to be twin violent tornadoes that seem to merge into one , similar to el reno 2011


can find a lot of damage points of swept clean with spots of light damage in the middle , tri state did a lot of cycloidal like path changes , this could sometimes be seen with the hackelburg tornado near tanner , and el reno 2011.

 

[Central Ohio Wx]

Tri state 1925 from what i can see was 3 main tornadoes along with some satellites or twins during the main EF5
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at its max width was likely over 2+ mile wide
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there were momments of what appears to be twin violent tornadoes that seem to merge into one , similar to el reno 2011

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can find a lot of damage points of swept clean with spots of light damage in the middle , tri state did a lot of cycloidal like path changes , this could sometimes be seen with the hackelburg tornado near tanner , and el reno 2011.

Wait, could I get that kmz too? I could probably use it for the Wikipedia article lol

 

[joshoctober16]

Wait, could I get that kmz too? I could probably use it for the Wikipedia article lol

my tri state survey isn't finish yet.

 

[HAwkmoon]

Wait, could I get that kmz too? I could probably use it for the Wikipedia article lol

I have a kmz for the full damage path with 5,200 damage points. Josh is actually using mine albeit an outdated version.

 

[HAwkmoon]

Tri state 1925 from what i can see was 3 main tornadoes along with some satellites or twins during the main EF5
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at its max width was likely over 2+ mile wide
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there were momments of what appears to be twin violent tornadoes that seem to merge into one , similar to el reno 2011

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can find a lot of damage points of swept clean with spots of light damage in the middle , tri state did a lot of cycloidal like path changes , this could sometimes be seen with the hackelburg tornado near tanner , and el reno 2011.

I can send you the updated kmz file on discord if you like. I also have a link to a sharepoint.

 

[HAwkmoon]

Google Earth

earth.google.com

To anyone who wants it. Here is the sharepoint to the google earth link of the damage path. It has 5,200 placements. It may take time to load.

 

[HAwkmoon]

Also included debris locations.

each point has info.

 

[Aaron Rider]

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Also included debris locations.
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each point has info.

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I've heard people refer to any of Jarrell, Bridge Creek, Moore, Smithville or whatever as THE tornado. Let me tell them something: if there was THE tornado, it is the Tri-State Tornado.

 

[Central Ohio Wx]

I've heard people refer to any of Jarrell, Bridge Creek, Moore, Smithville or whatever as THE tornado. Let me tell them something: if there was THE tornado, it is the Tri-State Tornado.

Honestly, and this is an extremely hot take, Jarrell is somewhat overrated from my research. F5 winds at 7-15 miles per hour are of course going to do incredible damage, which is why it’s a lot harder to believe it’s one of the strongest ever. IMO it’s either Smithville or Tri-State, the former being so violent it almost ripped itself to shreds.

 

[Aaron Rider]

Honestly, and this is an extremely hot take, Jarrell is somewhat overrated from my research. F5 winds at 7-15 miles per hour are of course going to do incredible damage, which is why it’s a lot harder to believe it’s one of the strongest ever. IMO it’s either Smithville or Tri-State, the former being so violent it almost ripped itself to shreds.

Yeah. I always favor Tri-state because of preposterous violence sustained over an extraordinary distance.

What I like about Jarrell and Loyal Valley are the extremely strange origins.

 

[ColdFront]

 

[HAwkmoon]

Honestly, and this is an extremely hot take, Jarrell is somewhat overrated from my research. F5 winds at 7-15 miles per hour are of course going to do incredible damage, which is why it’s a lot harder to believe it’s one of the strongest ever. IMO it’s either Smithville or Tri-State, the former being so violent it almost ripped itself to shreds.

EH, I Feel like Jarrell is sort of being too underrated right now, it was moving at around 15 mph in Double Creek, which is far from stalling and isnt THAT much slower than say Moore 2013. But also as we see here Jarrell was producing near double creek like damage well before it got that slow. Definitely the worst damage I have ever seen, wouldn't call it my personal strongest though.,

 

[HAwkmoon]

Yeah. I always favor Tri-state because of preposterous violence sustained over an extraordinary distance.

What I like about Jarrell and Loyal Valley are the extremely strange origins.

Yeah tri-state's violence combined with its speed are extraordinary. That on top of the fact it too had some of the worst damage on record.

 

[Aaron Rider]

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Thank goodness! I'm very excited. As a Pennsylvanian no less.

 

[slenker]

Jarrell is perfectly rated IMO. I feel like there’s been enough cases of slow moving monsters doing damage that is violent, yet still nothing compared to what Jarrell did (Bowdle 2010 is a good example). I would definitely call it at least a mid-tier F5 at worst, and I wouldn’t go any lower than that. I am definitely more on the side that it was an extremely high-end F5 and I’d put it in my top 5 for sure.

As for being stronger than Smithville, El Reno 2011, or Bridge Creek? No. Both moved far quicker and did very similar levels of violent damage. But the breadth of F5 damage in Jarrell was absolutely unparalleled, and IIRC it’s the only one that did F5 damage over a contour that exceeded hundreds of yards rather than only 30-40 yards. To me, that points to extremely violent winds in the core, and F5 winds being so far outside the true core are really telling to me about the violence of this beast.

Tri State is a tornado that I wouldn’t rate purely because of the fact that it happened so long ago, and I don’t know enough about it, but I do admit the damage is up there with the ones I listed that beat Jarrell in my opinion. That image of the peach (or was it another fruit?) tree grove being fully debarked and denuded was absolutely ludicrous.

EDIT: Also the fact that Tri-State was moving at 70+ mph at multiple points throughout its life and managing to do what it did… pretty absurd. Forgot to mention that @Aaron Rider