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2025 Atlantic Hurricane Season
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Need to keep a watch for tropical development in the NW Caribbean into Gulf 2nd into 3rd week of June.
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16,9,4 and 154 ACE points from ukmo
That's the around the average of what I am thinking.
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Gonna have to dig in this weekend (weather permitting) and start writing up my thoughts on the Atlantic season for my local Newspaper and Patreon.
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FireRat from Storm2K has posted there 2025 Chinese astrology hurricane forecast:
FireRat from Storm2K has posted there 2025 Chinese astrology hurricane forecast:
2025 Wood Snake Year = Different & Tricky Hurricane Season?
Hey Y'all
The time has come to make the 'oddball' thread for 2025, for the 6th time since 2020, using the Chinese Zodiac to apply the 12 & 60 year cycles that exist within this astrology and see if it can shed some light on what this season could bring, with the 2025 season being just days away! The year 2025 is known as the Wood Snake in Chinese Astrology, last seen 60 years ago! This thread is a continuing for-fun experiment to see if Chinese Astrology can actually paint a 'big picture' idea of what a particular season could bring, if indeed there really exist 12-year and 60-year zodiacal cycles that extend into the world of tropical cyclones.
Last year 2024, year of Wood Dragon, was WILD… 18 Named Storms, 11 Hurricanes and 5 Majors… eerily close to the faraway Fire Dragon year of 1916, both in activity levels and even the tracks (that year had 18 systems including TDs, 15 NS/10 H/5 MH). That Dragon year season may have been a very good “analog” for 2024, along with the 1964 Analog that also had 5 Majors and featured multiple US landfalls. I’m honestly surprised how close these two seasons matched 2024, although my prediction was too aggressive with the 25/11/7 numbers.
2024 was an extremely devastating, high-impact season defined by the Hurricanes Beryl, Helene and Milton. Beryl closely matched the “Caribbean cruiser” expected, but mad early! Helene, Milton and Debby went to Florida and dealt the state 3 hurricane landfalls (like 1964 did, but in different parts of the state). The storm tracks more-or-less followed what was speculated in general for the Wood Dragon year, having some similarity to 1964 with the Caribbean tracks heading up into the Gulf or Cuba and then hitting Florida or Louisiana. The other big notables were how Milton bombed out below 900 mb, reminiscent of the Dragon year 1988 which saw insanely intense Gilbert, and the disaster Helene brought to the Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina & Tennessee… something that was the worst seen since a 1916 hurricane brought massive floods there… yes, a 1916 hurricane – Dragon year as well.
In fact, both 1988 & 1916 were Dragon years that also had similar Numerology, something not included in these threads until now. 1988 = 1+9+8+8 = 26, 2+6 = 8 – this was an 8 Dragon year. 1916 was also an 8 year, 1+9+1+6 = 17 (8). For the 2025 thread, we will also take into account the most recent Numerology years that match 2025 Snake – that is 1989 & 1953. 2025 and these other two years are “9 Numerology years” – 2025 = 2+0+2+5 = 9, 1989 = 1+9+8+9 = 27 (9), 1953 = 1+9+5+3 = 18 (9)…we could go back to 1917 too but there may be some missed storms back then that would affect the calculations. 1916 might have been even more insane, so 2024 seemed destined to be an absolute beast. Could 2025 be similar?
First, now that we’re entering the 6th year doing this, let’s see how the past 5 seasons fared number-wise, and see if there was any correlation:
2020 – Predicted = 19/9/6 & ACE 175-225... ACTUAL = 30/14/7 & ACE 180
2021 – Predicted = 16/8/4 & ACE 105-135... ACTUAL = 21/7/4 & ACE 145
2022 – Predicted = 20/9/4 & ACE 135-165... ACTUAL = 14/8/2 & ACE 95
2023 – Predicted = 15/7/3 & ACE 105-125... ACTUAL = 20/7/3 & ACE 146
2024 – Predicted = 25/11/7 & ACE 175 – 225… ACTUAL = 18/10/5 & ACE 162
Hey Y'all
The time has come to make the 'oddball' thread for 2025, for the 6th time since 2020, using the Chinese Zodiac to apply the 12 & 60 year cycles that exist within this astrology and see if it can shed some light on what this season could bring, with the 2025 season being just days away! The year 2025 is known as the Wood Snake in Chinese Astrology, last seen 60 years ago! This thread is a continuing for-fun experiment to see if Chinese Astrology can actually paint a 'big picture' idea of what a particular season could bring, if indeed there really exist 12-year and 60-year zodiacal cycles that extend into the world of tropical cyclones.
Last year 2024, year of Wood Dragon, was WILD… 18 Named Storms, 11 Hurricanes and 5 Majors… eerily close to the faraway Fire Dragon year of 1916, both in activity levels and even the tracks (that year had 18 systems including TDs, 15 NS/10 H/5 MH). That Dragon year season may have been a very good “analog” for 2024, along with the 1964 Analog that also had 5 Majors and featured multiple US landfalls. I’m honestly surprised how close these two seasons matched 2024, although my prediction was too aggressive with the 25/11/7 numbers.
2024 was an extremely devastating, high-impact season defined by the Hurricanes Beryl, Helene and Milton. Beryl closely matched the “Caribbean cruiser” expected, but mad early! Helene, Milton and Debby went to Florida and dealt the state 3 hurricane landfalls (like 1964 did, but in different parts of the state). The storm tracks more-or-less followed what was speculated in general for the Wood Dragon year, having some similarity to 1964 with the Caribbean tracks heading up into the Gulf or Cuba and then hitting Florida or Louisiana. The other big notables were how Milton bombed out below 900 mb, reminiscent of the Dragon year 1988 which saw insanely intense Gilbert, and the disaster Helene brought to the Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina & Tennessee… something that was the worst seen since a 1916 hurricane brought massive floods there… yes, a 1916 hurricane – Dragon year as well.
In fact, both 1988 & 1916 were Dragon years that also had similar Numerology, something not included in these threads until now. 1988 = 1+9+8+8 = 26, 2+6 = 8 – this was an 8 Dragon year. 1916 was also an 8 year, 1+9+1+6 = 17 (8). For the 2025 thread, we will also take into account the most recent Numerology years that match 2025 Snake – that is 1989 & 1953. 2025 and these other two years are “9 Numerology years” – 2025 = 2+0+2+5 = 9, 1989 = 1+9+8+9 = 27 (9), 1953 = 1+9+5+3 = 18 (9)…we could go back to 1917 too but there may be some missed storms back then that would affect the calculations. 1916 might have been even more insane, so 2024 seemed destined to be an absolute beast. Could 2025 be similar?
First, now that we’re entering the 6th year doing this, let’s see how the past 5 seasons fared number-wise, and see if there was any correlation:
2020 – Predicted = 19/9/6 & ACE 175-225... ACTUAL = 30/14/7 & ACE 180
2021 – Predicted = 16/8/4 & ACE 105-135... ACTUAL = 21/7/4 & ACE 145
2022 – Predicted = 20/9/4 & ACE 135-165... ACTUAL = 14/8/2 & ACE 95
2023 – Predicted = 15/7/3 & ACE 105-125... ACTUAL = 20/7/3 & ACE 146
2024 – Predicted = 25/11/7 & ACE 175 – 225… ACTUAL = 18/10/5 & ACE 162
Part 2 (It was over 10,000 words)
1) The result is that 3 out of the 5 year predictions Atmospheric Anti-Climax too low on the NS/H/M (especially NS) & 2 years Atmospheric Anti-Climax too high including 2024. The ACE prediction was basically a crapshoot, again. Seems the only thing that stayed, more or less, in line was the number of Hurricanes and the number of Major Hurricanes… so the H/MH part of the NS/H/MH count, which is the big stuff too. 10 hurricanes in 2024, when 11 were predicted. Was still a bit too aggressive with the 7 majors, and of course 25 NS.
This begs the question… what could be said about 2025??
Without much further ado, the Answer is… A weird and potentially VERY Tricky 1965 + 1953 + 1989 combo type season but on crack thanks to climate change and the current active-era, probably on par with 2024’s number of hurricanes & even more named storms… yet with a lower amount of Major Hurricanes. A highly impactful and dangerous hurricane season is in the cards yet again, but potentially with one more element not seen in these past several years – the element of Surprise. Snake years are notoriously tricky, and may just be the most difficult to predict! 2025 is the Year of the Wood Snake and it could bring something very different compared to the past 5 seasons, according to this astral wizard method.
2025 could bring a season with wacky tracks, the years 1965 & 1989 should ring bells and recall the names Betsy & Hugo. Betsy was the ultimate trickster, pretending to curve away from the Bahamas & FL only to loopity loop back SW into the Bahamas & extreme South FL and then go all the way to Louisiana as a Cat 4! 1989’s Hugo could be another big “analog” for 2025, putting the northeast Caribbean and the Carolinas in the crosshairs for a monster hurricane. 2025 could very well be like its closest 60-year cycle Zodiac predecessor, 1965, but on crack. Think Betsy from that year but in a season that (thanks to the active-era & climate change) could dish out double the activity of that season, and maybe act like 1989 as well because of the “9 Numerology year”, but busier thanks again to the active new era we’re in. On the contrary, the best case scenario may be a season like 1953, but busier. That season was less impactful than 1965 & 1989, due to sheer luck. 1965 & 1989 are best to took at for track analogs IMO, as this type of year is very tricky with the numbers too… 2013 was the previous Snake year, and it was quite slow despite its 14 NS. 2013 is another reason why I’m trying out the Numerology of the year as well, because 2013 was a “6 year”, and the previous such “6 Snake years” were 1977, 1941 & 1905 – all very slow seasons. Taking the numerology into account could’ve helped select the “best match” years to 2013 and it would’ve hinted at a slower season than say, 1893, which was also in the same Chinese Astrology 60-year cycle as 2013 but it was a “3 numerology year” instead. The 9 Numerology Snake Year 2025 looks potentially far different than the 6 Numerology Snake we had in 2013. One more thing to also consider, numerologically, is that 2025 is a 9 Numerology year that ends in "25"... 25 may be the most powerful number related to natural events, and dates that add to this number or contain 25 as part of the date, have had the lion's share of major weather disasters. This may apply to the 25 portion of 20(25)...The most recent '25 year in this 100-year Numerology cycle, 1925, was extreme but for tornadoes (not hurricanes), the prior '25 year 1825 had a vicious likely Cat 5 rampaging through the Northern Caribbean (Santa Ana hurricane), will 2025 be extreme as well? Time will tell!
This begs the question… what could be said about 2025??
Without much further ado, the Answer is… A weird and potentially VERY Tricky 1965 + 1953 + 1989 combo type season but on crack thanks to climate change and the current active-era, probably on par with 2024’s number of hurricanes & even more named storms… yet with a lower amount of Major Hurricanes. A highly impactful and dangerous hurricane season is in the cards yet again, but potentially with one more element not seen in these past several years – the element of Surprise. Snake years are notoriously tricky, and may just be the most difficult to predict! 2025 is the Year of the Wood Snake and it could bring something very different compared to the past 5 seasons, according to this astral wizard method.
2025 could bring a season with wacky tracks, the years 1965 & 1989 should ring bells and recall the names Betsy & Hugo. Betsy was the ultimate trickster, pretending to curve away from the Bahamas & FL only to loopity loop back SW into the Bahamas & extreme South FL and then go all the way to Louisiana as a Cat 4! 1989’s Hugo could be another big “analog” for 2025, putting the northeast Caribbean and the Carolinas in the crosshairs for a monster hurricane. 2025 could very well be like its closest 60-year cycle Zodiac predecessor, 1965, but on crack. Think Betsy from that year but in a season that (thanks to the active-era & climate change) could dish out double the activity of that season, and maybe act like 1989 as well because of the “9 Numerology year”, but busier thanks again to the active new era we’re in. On the contrary, the best case scenario may be a season like 1953, but busier. That season was less impactful than 1965 & 1989, due to sheer luck. 1965 & 1989 are best to took at for track analogs IMO, as this type of year is very tricky with the numbers too… 2013 was the previous Snake year, and it was quite slow despite its 14 NS. 2013 is another reason why I’m trying out the Numerology of the year as well, because 2013 was a “6 year”, and the previous such “6 Snake years” were 1977, 1941 & 1905 – all very slow seasons. Taking the numerology into account could’ve helped select the “best match” years to 2013 and it would’ve hinted at a slower season than say, 1893, which was also in the same Chinese Astrology 60-year cycle as 2013 but it was a “3 numerology year” instead. The 9 Numerology Snake Year 2025 looks potentially far different than the 6 Numerology Snake we had in 2013. One more thing to also consider, numerologically, is that 2025 is a 9 Numerology year that ends in "25"... 25 may be the most powerful number related to natural events, and dates that add to this number or contain 25 as part of the date, have had the lion's share of major weather disasters. This may apply to the 25 portion of 20(25)...The most recent '25 year in this 100-year Numerology cycle, 1925, was extreme but for tornadoes (not hurricanes), the prior '25 year 1825 had a vicious likely Cat 5 rampaging through the Northern Caribbean (Santa Ana hurricane), will 2025 be extreme as well? Time will tell!
Part 3 (was still over 10,000 words)
PREDICTION: These are the numbers we might be dealing with in 2025 thanks to this stuff: 23/10/3
ACE ~ 125 - 175
In addition, this is a Watch Zone map I made for 2025, to accompany this prediction, based on the history of these Snake years that you’ll read about further down this post:
2025 Hurricane Watch Areas, Based on the History of Snake-Year Cycle:
Now that you guys got to see the 2025 ‘prediction’, lets take a closer look at this astrology, what the Year of the Snake means, and look at what led to these numbers and guessed impact watch areas…
The Chinese Zodiac
Chinese Astrology is a bit more complex than most people think, because this ancient astrology system also assigns 5 different elements (Metal, Water, Wood, Fire, Earth) to the yearly animal signs, making for a total of 60 different year combinations! This way 2020 was a Metal Rat year, 2021 a Metal Ox year, 2022 a Water Tiger, 2023 a Water Rabbit year, 2024 a Wood Dragon year, and now 2025 a Wood Snake year. Each element cycle lasts 2 years. 2026, next year, will be the Fire Horse year.
Here’s some history on the origin of the zodiac, for those interested, in the link below:
https://depts.washington.edu/triolive/quest/2007/TTQ07030/history.html
This ancient wisdom handed down by the Chinese is thousands of years old, and perhaps, just perhaps, it may also extend into tropical meteorology.
In a bit more scientific view, perhaps there exist recurring significant weather patterns, happening to some degree, every 12 years / 60 years around the world for some reason, including the tropics. There are some research articles that do note a ~60 year cycle in the Earth's Climate linked to solar activity, 60 years just like this zodiac. We could look deeper and say that Chinese Astrology indicates that there are possibly 12-year and 60-year natural cycles at play, and that the "animal signs" and "elements" only make it easier and more ‘fun’ to point out each of the 60 different points within this potential natural cycle. Who knows, maybe the Ancient Chinese picked up on this 60-year natural cycle and built their 60-year Zodiac Astrology around it, handing down wisdom down many generations since about 2700 BC.
Onwards to the 2025 stuff:
The year 2025 falls within the 12-year cycle the Chinese call the Year of the Snake, and the 60-year cycle which is called the Wood Snake.
Using the 12 year cycle, we'd look at the years 2013, 2001, 1989, 1977, 1965, 1953, 1941, 1929, 1917, 1905, and so on, to get an idea of what 2025 could be like. Interestingly, the seasons in this cycle were generally on the slower side, but with notable exceptions like 1929, 1965 & 1989 with significant Cape Verde activity and long track hurricanes, including many truly historic events such as the 1929 Bahamas - Florida Hurricane, 1965’s Betsy and 1989’s Hugo. Snake years, like their namesake, can be sneaky & tricky hurricane years.
The sexagenary cycle (60 yr) reinforces the thought even more that 2025 could be a tricky and difficult-to-forecast season, simply looking at the previous 5 such years (1965, 1905, 1845, 1785, 1725), of which 3 were slow and 2 were impactful… with 1785 being a very busy one (and perhaps an even better analog for 2025, but there is too little data unfortunately to make a good prediction based on that season). The 1965season might be another one of the best analogs for 2025 with respect to storm tracks alone, with its seasonal numbers of 10/4/1 likely being too low to compare to 2025 (the current active-era coupled with climate change could give us double of 1965’s activity). 2025 looks likelier to be a busy Wood Snake year.
PREDICTION: These are the numbers we might be dealing with in 2025 thanks to this stuff: 23/10/3
ACE ~ 125 - 175
In addition, this is a Watch Zone map I made for 2025, to accompany this prediction, based on the history of these Snake years that you’ll read about further down this post:
2025 Hurricane Watch Areas, Based on the History of Snake-Year Cycle:
Now that you guys got to see the 2025 ‘prediction’, lets take a closer look at this astrology, what the Year of the Snake means, and look at what led to these numbers and guessed impact watch areas…
The Chinese Zodiac
Chinese Astrology is a bit more complex than most people think, because this ancient astrology system also assigns 5 different elements (Metal, Water, Wood, Fire, Earth) to the yearly animal signs, making for a total of 60 different year combinations! This way 2020 was a Metal Rat year, 2021 a Metal Ox year, 2022 a Water Tiger, 2023 a Water Rabbit year, 2024 a Wood Dragon year, and now 2025 a Wood Snake year. Each element cycle lasts 2 years. 2026, next year, will be the Fire Horse year.
Here’s some history on the origin of the zodiac, for those interested, in the link below:
https://depts.washington.edu/triolive/quest/2007/TTQ07030/history.html
This ancient wisdom handed down by the Chinese is thousands of years old, and perhaps, just perhaps, it may also extend into tropical meteorology.
In a bit more scientific view, perhaps there exist recurring significant weather patterns, happening to some degree, every 12 years / 60 years around the world for some reason, including the tropics. There are some research articles that do note a ~60 year cycle in the Earth's Climate linked to solar activity, 60 years just like this zodiac. We could look deeper and say that Chinese Astrology indicates that there are possibly 12-year and 60-year natural cycles at play, and that the "animal signs" and "elements" only make it easier and more ‘fun’ to point out each of the 60 different points within this potential natural cycle. Who knows, maybe the Ancient Chinese picked up on this 60-year natural cycle and built their 60-year Zodiac Astrology around it, handing down wisdom down many generations since about 2700 BC.
Onwards to the 2025 stuff:
The year 2025 falls within the 12-year cycle the Chinese call the Year of the Snake, and the 60-year cycle which is called the Wood Snake.
Using the 12 year cycle, we'd look at the years 2013, 2001, 1989, 1977, 1965, 1953, 1941, 1929, 1917, 1905, and so on, to get an idea of what 2025 could be like. Interestingly, the seasons in this cycle were generally on the slower side, but with notable exceptions like 1929, 1965 & 1989 with significant Cape Verde activity and long track hurricanes, including many truly historic events such as the 1929 Bahamas - Florida Hurricane, 1965’s Betsy and 1989’s Hugo. Snake years, like their namesake, can be sneaky & tricky hurricane years.
The sexagenary cycle (60 yr) reinforces the thought even more that 2025 could be a tricky and difficult-to-forecast season, simply looking at the previous 5 such years (1965, 1905, 1845, 1785, 1725), of which 3 were slow and 2 were impactful… with 1785 being a very busy one (and perhaps an even better analog for 2025, but there is too little data unfortunately to make a good prediction based on that season). The 1965season might be another one of the best analogs for 2025 with respect to storm tracks alone, with its seasonal numbers of 10/4/1 likely being too low to compare to 2025 (the current active-era coupled with climate change could give us double of 1965’s activity). 2025 looks likelier to be a busy Wood Snake year.
Part 4
The graphic below is 300 years worth of Notable Hurricane History happening during Snake years of all types (12-yr cycle), and the green tracks represent the tracks of significant hurricanes that happened in the Wood Snake years (60-yr cycle). In Chinese Astrology, the color Green represents the element Wood. These are paramount because in this prediction thread we’re not just looking at seasonal number predictions, but also predicting possible tracks. This is the history of Snake years since 1713:
Snake Year Significant Hurricane Tracks – Cat 2+ landfalls - 12 & 60 year cycles:
The Year of the Snake has been a tricky one throughout the centuries, and also seems much more east-based than the previous several years for the big impact hurricanes, with a lot of east coast hits, even far north. Big hurricanes that happened within this general 12-year cycle included Michelle 2001, Hugo 1989, Anita 1977, Betsy 1965, The Florida Hurricane of 1941, Bahamas-FL Hurricane of 1929, Cuba Hurricane of 1917, The Devastating 1893 Season that had the Sea Islands Hurricane and Louisiana Hurricanes which both claimed 1000+ lives each, 1881 Georgia Hurricane, and further back a duo of northeast US storms in 1869 (which was busy, earliest year with 10+ known TCs), 1821 Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane, and the Caribbean + Mid Atlantic getting hit hard in both 1785 & 1713 by several hurricanes in what were very busy seasons. The Northeast Caribbean including Puerto Rico, as well as much of the Eastern CONUS has been absolutely WHACKED during Snake years... especially a corridor from the Northern Leewards to Puerto Rico, and another corridor from about Southeast Georgia to NC Outer Banks and up to New England, with the area from Charleston SC to Coastal VA getting the most hits. The Bahamas lie along the path of many of these, and were equally brutalized, with a few of these storms also going into extreme South FL on an Andrew-like path into the Gulf and towards the north Gulf Coast for a final landfall. Many of the other Bahamian storms went right into the Carolinas and up the East Coast. There's notably more East Coast & Bahamas action than during the previous Dragon-year cycle.
The graphic below is 300 years worth of Notable Hurricane History happening during Snake years of all types (12-yr cycle), and the green tracks represent the tracks of significant hurricanes that happened in the Wood Snake years (60-yr cycle). In Chinese Astrology, the color Green represents the element Wood. These are paramount because in this prediction thread we’re not just looking at seasonal number predictions, but also predicting possible tracks. This is the history of Snake years since 1713:
Snake Year Significant Hurricane Tracks – Cat 2+ landfalls - 12 & 60 year cycles:
The Year of the Snake has been a tricky one throughout the centuries, and also seems much more east-based than the previous several years for the big impact hurricanes, with a lot of east coast hits, even far north. Big hurricanes that happened within this general 12-year cycle included Michelle 2001, Hugo 1989, Anita 1977, Betsy 1965, The Florida Hurricane of 1941, Bahamas-FL Hurricane of 1929, Cuba Hurricane of 1917, The Devastating 1893 Season that had the Sea Islands Hurricane and Louisiana Hurricanes which both claimed 1000+ lives each, 1881 Georgia Hurricane, and further back a duo of northeast US storms in 1869 (which was busy, earliest year with 10+ known TCs), 1821 Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane, and the Caribbean + Mid Atlantic getting hit hard in both 1785 & 1713 by several hurricanes in what were very busy seasons. The Northeast Caribbean including Puerto Rico, as well as much of the Eastern CONUS has been absolutely WHACKED during Snake years... especially a corridor from the Northern Leewards to Puerto Rico, and another corridor from about Southeast Georgia to NC Outer Banks and up to New England, with the area from Charleston SC to Coastal VA getting the most hits. The Bahamas lie along the path of many of these, and were equally brutalized, with a few of these storms also going into extreme South FL on an Andrew-like path into the Gulf and towards the north Gulf Coast for a final landfall. Many of the other Bahamian storms went right into the Carolinas and up the East Coast. There's notably more East Coast & Bahamas action than during the previous Dragon-year cycle.
Part 5
The 60-year cycle of Wood Snake year is quite tricky as well, and these are the highlights of the past 5 such years since 1725…
-1725 dealt a significant hurricane strike on St. Lucia in September.
-1785 dealt several strong hurricanes to the northern & eastern Caribbean, as well as one powerful Mid-Atlantic strike.
-1845 was the least eventful Wood Snake year, not much is known about this season.
-1905 was also a very slow hurricane season.
-1965 was about average, but below average on the number of Major hurricanes… just 1. However, that one hurricane happened to be Betsy, and she was quite a tricky & powerful high impact hurricane! Betsy seemed to want to recurve well east of the Southeast US, only to make a complete 180 and dive SW into the Bahamas and Southern FL as a Major Hurricane. Betsy then went on to hit Louisiana as a Category 4 storm. This storm was sort of like Andrew, but even more tricky. A storm like Betsy this day and age could be even more intense and a real calamity.
The 60-year cycle of Wood Snake year is quite tricky as well, and these are the highlights of the past 5 such years since 1725…
-1725 dealt a significant hurricane strike on St. Lucia in September.
-1785 dealt several strong hurricanes to the northern & eastern Caribbean, as well as one powerful Mid-Atlantic strike.
-1845 was the least eventful Wood Snake year, not much is known about this season.
-1905 was also a very slow hurricane season.
-1965 was about average, but below average on the number of Major hurricanes… just 1. However, that one hurricane happened to be Betsy, and she was quite a tricky & powerful high impact hurricane! Betsy seemed to want to recurve well east of the Southeast US, only to make a complete 180 and dive SW into the Bahamas and Southern FL as a Major Hurricane. Betsy then went on to hit Louisiana as a Category 4 storm. This storm was sort of like Andrew, but even more tricky. A storm like Betsy this day and age could be even more intense and a real calamity.
Part 6
Taking all the above into account, I made the following graphic which shows the kind of storm tracks we could see for 2025’s big hurricanes of Cat 2+ landfall. I came up with 9 such possible tracks and they’re listed in general descending order from most likely to least likely. Tracks 1 through 4 being more likely than tracks 5-9… also it is very important to mention that not all of these are being "predicted" to happen!... maybe FOUR of these in a worse-case scenario:
Possible 2025 Significant Hurricane Tracks – Cat 2+ landfalls:
As for how we got the numbers prediction for 2025:
We try a new way for 2025 for fun with this zodiac to see if we can attain better NS/H/MH guesses, having seen that many of the previous experimental predictions Atmospheric Anti-Climax too low, and like we did for 2024, we’ll look at the more recent seasons (perhaps we should put more weight on the recent averages and not those from long ago)…
We look at the more unique 60-year cycle better, the Wood Snake years, and use the most recent one which is 1965… and also introduce a look at Numerology of some of the most recent Snake years that are like 2025 (2+0+2+5 = 9) so we look at the past two such Snake years that also added to “9”. 1989 & 1953, (1+9+8+9 = 27, 2+7 = 9 and 1+9+5+3 = 18, 1+8 = 9)
We take 1965’s seasonal numbers and average them out with 1989 & 1953 – thus possibly getting the most accurate mix of the most recent Wood Snake year combined with the most recent 9 Numerology Snake years:
1989: 11/7/2
1965: 10/4/1
1953: 14/7/3
Avg blend = 11.66 NS/6.00 H/2.00 MH
Then we compare this blend to the average numbers for that slower era (which is 9/5/3), and see that the 1989/1965/1953 combo was overall somewhat “quantity over quality” with 130% of normal for Named Storms/ 120% of normal for Hurricanes and 67% the normal number for Major Hurricanes.
Math:
- 1989/1965/1953 Avg 11.66 named storms divided by average of 9 NS back then = 1.30. = 130 %
-1989/1965/1953 Avg 6 Hurricanes divided by the average of 5 Hurricanes back then = 1.20 = 120%
-1989/1965/1953 Avg 2 Major Hurricanes divided by the average of 3 MH back then = 0.67 = 67%
This shows the 1989/1965/1953 combo was a bit active for named systems and hurricane counts compared to a typical season back in the 1950s – 1980s, but did have a fairly low number of major hurricanes. Perhaps this means that 2025 could behave similarly for a season in the 2020s.
2025 Math:
We now take these NS/H/MH percentages of 130%/120%/67% (which represent the blend of 1965, 1989 & 1953 and how busy it was compared to the average back then) and then compare (multiply) them to the most recent 10 year average of 18/8/4 (see below). It might be a better idea to look at the most recent 10-year average, which is also in-line with the modern technology era that helps us detect more named storms than ever before:
The 10 years containing the 2015-2024 seasons went like this:
2015: 11/4/2
2016: 15/7/4
2017: 17/10/6
2018: 15/8/2
2019: 18/6/3
2020: 30/14/7
2021: 21/7/4
2022: 14/8/2
2023: 20/7/3
2024: 18/11/5
Totals NS/H/MH Averages = (179/10)/(82/10)/(38/10) = 17.9/8.2/3.8
2015 - 2024 10-year Average: 17.9/8.2/3.8 = 18/8/4 rounded. This to me is perhaps the average we should compare to this season and the most recent Wood Snake Year hurricane season, 1965, along with the 2 most recent “9 Numerology” Snake years 1953 & 1989.
Math: 1965/1989/1953 Percentages to the old Normal multiplied by the 2015-2024 Averages…
(130% X 18)/(120% X 8)/(67% X 4) = 23.40/9.6/2.68 = 23/10/3 when rounded.
Therefore, perhaps, 2025 could be quite active for Named Storms and Hurricane counts but with a lower ratio of Majors than seen last year.
Taking all the above into account, I made the following graphic which shows the kind of storm tracks we could see for 2025’s big hurricanes of Cat 2+ landfall. I came up with 9 such possible tracks and they’re listed in general descending order from most likely to least likely. Tracks 1 through 4 being more likely than tracks 5-9… also it is very important to mention that not all of these are being "predicted" to happen!... maybe FOUR of these in a worse-case scenario:
Possible 2025 Significant Hurricane Tracks – Cat 2+ landfalls:
As for how we got the numbers prediction for 2025:
We try a new way for 2025 for fun with this zodiac to see if we can attain better NS/H/MH guesses, having seen that many of the previous experimental predictions Atmospheric Anti-Climax too low, and like we did for 2024, we’ll look at the more recent seasons (perhaps we should put more weight on the recent averages and not those from long ago)…
We look at the more unique 60-year cycle better, the Wood Snake years, and use the most recent one which is 1965… and also introduce a look at Numerology of some of the most recent Snake years that are like 2025 (2+0+2+5 = 9) so we look at the past two such Snake years that also added to “9”. 1989 & 1953, (1+9+8+9 = 27, 2+7 = 9 and 1+9+5+3 = 18, 1+8 = 9)
We take 1965’s seasonal numbers and average them out with 1989 & 1953 – thus possibly getting the most accurate mix of the most recent Wood Snake year combined with the most recent 9 Numerology Snake years:
1989: 11/7/2
1965: 10/4/1
1953: 14/7/3
Avg blend = 11.66 NS/6.00 H/2.00 MH
Then we compare this blend to the average numbers for that slower era (which is 9/5/3), and see that the 1989/1965/1953 combo was overall somewhat “quantity over quality” with 130% of normal for Named Storms/ 120% of normal for Hurricanes and 67% the normal number for Major Hurricanes.
Math:
- 1989/1965/1953 Avg 11.66 named storms divided by average of 9 NS back then = 1.30. = 130 %
-1989/1965/1953 Avg 6 Hurricanes divided by the average of 5 Hurricanes back then = 1.20 = 120%
-1989/1965/1953 Avg 2 Major Hurricanes divided by the average of 3 MH back then = 0.67 = 67%
This shows the 1989/1965/1953 combo was a bit active for named systems and hurricane counts compared to a typical season back in the 1950s – 1980s, but did have a fairly low number of major hurricanes. Perhaps this means that 2025 could behave similarly for a season in the 2020s.
2025 Math:
We now take these NS/H/MH percentages of 130%/120%/67% (which represent the blend of 1965, 1989 & 1953 and how busy it was compared to the average back then) and then compare (multiply) them to the most recent 10 year average of 18/8/4 (see below). It might be a better idea to look at the most recent 10-year average, which is also in-line with the modern technology era that helps us detect more named storms than ever before:
The 10 years containing the 2015-2024 seasons went like this:
2015: 11/4/2
2016: 15/7/4
2017: 17/10/6
2018: 15/8/2
2019: 18/6/3
2020: 30/14/7
2021: 21/7/4
2022: 14/8/2
2023: 20/7/3
2024: 18/11/5
Totals NS/H/MH Averages = (179/10)/(82/10)/(38/10) = 17.9/8.2/3.8
2015 - 2024 10-year Average: 17.9/8.2/3.8 = 18/8/4 rounded. This to me is perhaps the average we should compare to this season and the most recent Wood Snake Year hurricane season, 1965, along with the 2 most recent “9 Numerology” Snake years 1953 & 1989.
Math: 1965/1989/1953 Percentages to the old Normal multiplied by the 2015-2024 Averages…
(130% X 18)/(120% X 8)/(67% X 4) = 23.40/9.6/2.68 = 23/10/3 when rounded.
Therefore, perhaps, 2025 could be quite active for Named Storms and Hurricane counts but with a lower ratio of Majors than seen last year.
Part 7
Basically we took 1965’s relatively low numbers 10/4/1 and combined them with 1989’s & 1953’s numbers (as they were “9 years” like 2025). We then took this average blend of these three years and compared them to the average for that Era of 9/5/3 which equaled to that it was 130% busier for NS than normal/ 120% busier for H/ and 67% slower for MH compared to the old average of 9/5/3 from that era.
We subsequently took those NS/H/MH activity ratios of 130%/120%/67% and multiplied them to the most recent 10-year average of 18/8/4 to get the final 23/10/3… a fairly weird result, implying 2025 may be a tricky one folks!
As for the ACE projection, this is simply more guesswork than anything else, a season having 23/10/3 would be likely in my opinion to have an ACE between 125 and 175… especially considering we may have many named systems, and in addition some long trackers like 1989 & 1965 did (Betsy, Hugo), with land interaction at times... which may preventing an ACE over 175+).
I think all that you’ve read up to this point, adds some credence to a fairly busy and Especially TRICKY hurricane season. This is how I think 2025 could end up being, and here goes the elaborated version of this crazy experimental prediction:
2025 Atlantic Hurricane Season Prediction:
2025 ends up with 23 named storms, 10 of which become hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes. There are at least 4 possible scenarios based on the history of Snake Years that could end up being the main highlights of the season impact-wise. The 4 Possible Scenarios for 2025 are as follows, in order from most likely to less likely:
1.) Approx. between August 20 – October 15… There could be a Major Cape Verde Hurricane that passes very near or through the northern Lesser Antilles, which then tracks just north of the Bahamas, possibly brushing or even hitting the northernmost Bahamas before veering to the north. Once heading north, this hurricane would head into either SC or Eastern NC and track right up the Chesapeake. This storm would be like a Hugo 1989 combined with the 1785 Mid Atlantic hurricane. The storm could have a shot at Cat 4/5 before nearing or hitting Puerto Rico & the Virgin Islands, and then subsequently hit the Carolinas as a Cat 3 or Cat 4. This could perhaps be one of the 2 worst case scenarios for 2025, a powerful storm that brings significant impacts to many across the islands and Southeast & Eastern CONUS.
2.) Approx. between August 25 – October 25… A tropical storm forms east of the Leewards, heads towards them only to skirt the northernmost islands or pass right over them, and then head WNW north of the Bahamas, slowly intensifying, turning northwards (appearing to miss land) only to loop back south and SW towards the Bahamas again as a rapidly intensifying Major Hurricane and then go on to strike South Florida from the east - then head into the Gulf en-route to slam Louisiana a few days later as a major hurricane again. This storm could hit both the Southern tip of Florida & upper Keys and Louisiana as a Cat 3 or Cat 4 hurricane (don’t wanna say Cat 5, but it’s not out of the question)… Essentially this is a Betsy 1965 repeat on crack thanks to climate change, in Wood Snake year fashion. This too would be one of the two most unfortunate scenarios for 2025, a tricky storm that catches many off guard due to its erratic track, and deals a devastating blow to the one part of FL that’s lucked out for a long time. Likeliest to happen in September or Early October.
3.) Approx. between September 15 – October 25… A strong hurricane, possibly Cat 2+, could take a 1893-like path, brushing past the Leewards or Virgin Islands in a NW path, which then bends to the west, passes near or over the Northern Bahamas going WNW and then strikes the northeast coast of FL or SE Georgia while turning north, much like the 1893 Sea Islands hurricane did, making this quite a rare hit. The storm could alternately threaten this part of the US before veering NNE into the Carolinas and heading straight up the Mid-Atlantic and into the Northeast US (like 1821). The hurricane could be quite destructive too, and be long-lived. Cat 3 strike might be possible, even well north. This scenario basically blends the track of the 1893 Cape Verde hurricanes with the several Mid-Atlantic & New England hurricanes of past Snake years such as 1785, 1821 & 1869. This tricky path would be a bit less likely than the previous 2 scenarios.
4.) Approx. between July 25 – November 5… A strong Caribbean cruiser takes place, entering the Caribbean after affecting Barbados & St. Lucia and heading towards Jamaica. The storm will then most likely track NW into Western Cuba and then go into the Gulf to strike the northern Gulf coast between TX and FL Panhandle as maybe a Cat 2 – 3 storm (likelier to happen earlier, July – Sept). A less-likely track after Jamaica would be a dive back to the SW to parallel the north coast of Honduras and then head west towards Belize and into Mexico, also as a strong hurricane (this track would be likelier later in the season, Sept – Nov). Should this storm happen in Late October or November, it could even take a Michelle 2001 track over Cuba (track 9 in the hypothetical map above).
2025 could offer a very interesting type of season we haven’t seen in a while, especially with regards to potentially high-impact trickster tracks and the chance for landfalls in areas not hit in years (like the Mid-Atlantic & Northeast) as well as places that have lucked out in the past several years that could see this streak end this year (Miami for example). 2025 looks like a much more east-based season than the past 5 seasons have been, at least according to this oddball experiment. Heads up just in case my wacky crystal ball ends up being close to reality!
Alright guys, all that which you've read is just my 2 crazy cents, so please take all of the above with a grain of salt. As I’ve mentioned before, This thread is experimental and probably geared more towards amusement rather than serious predictions, so take this as my disclaimer. The future conditions of the Atlantic, i.e. the SST's, ENSO, Teleconnections, MDR favorability, SAL and other meteorological indicators/factors will have the ultimate say in how the season goes, and these factors could easily change as we head into the peak of hurricane season.
Alright, let’s see how 2025 evolves over the next several months, it should be fun and exciting to watch and see if this esoteric stuff has any real meaning to the hurricane season once again!
Feel free to ask me questions or write whatever you wish here. We can track 2025 here too, and I’ll
try to keep this thread alive by posting updates, other experimental takes, visuals, and such whenever possible.
-FireRat
May 21 2025
Last edited by FireRat on Wed May 21, 2025 4:43 am, edited 1 time in total.Pl
Basically we took 1965’s relatively low numbers 10/4/1 and combined them with 1989’s & 1953’s numbers (as they were “9 years” like 2025). We then took this average blend of these three years and compared them to the average for that Era of 9/5/3 which equaled to that it was 130% busier for NS than normal/ 120% busier for H/ and 67% slower for MH compared to the old average of 9/5/3 from that era.
We subsequently took those NS/H/MH activity ratios of 130%/120%/67% and multiplied them to the most recent 10-year average of 18/8/4 to get the final 23/10/3… a fairly weird result, implying 2025 may be a tricky one folks!
As for the ACE projection, this is simply more guesswork than anything else, a season having 23/10/3 would be likely in my opinion to have an ACE between 125 and 175… especially considering we may have many named systems, and in addition some long trackers like 1989 & 1965 did (Betsy, Hugo), with land interaction at times... which may preventing an ACE over 175+).
I think all that you’ve read up to this point, adds some credence to a fairly busy and Especially TRICKY hurricane season. This is how I think 2025 could end up being, and here goes the elaborated version of this crazy experimental prediction:
2025 Atlantic Hurricane Season Prediction:
2025 ends up with 23 named storms, 10 of which become hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes. There are at least 4 possible scenarios based on the history of Snake Years that could end up being the main highlights of the season impact-wise. The 4 Possible Scenarios for 2025 are as follows, in order from most likely to less likely:
1.) Approx. between August 20 – October 15… There could be a Major Cape Verde Hurricane that passes very near or through the northern Lesser Antilles, which then tracks just north of the Bahamas, possibly brushing or even hitting the northernmost Bahamas before veering to the north. Once heading north, this hurricane would head into either SC or Eastern NC and track right up the Chesapeake. This storm would be like a Hugo 1989 combined with the 1785 Mid Atlantic hurricane. The storm could have a shot at Cat 4/5 before nearing or hitting Puerto Rico & the Virgin Islands, and then subsequently hit the Carolinas as a Cat 3 or Cat 4. This could perhaps be one of the 2 worst case scenarios for 2025, a powerful storm that brings significant impacts to many across the islands and Southeast & Eastern CONUS.
2.) Approx. between August 25 – October 25… A tropical storm forms east of the Leewards, heads towards them only to skirt the northernmost islands or pass right over them, and then head WNW north of the Bahamas, slowly intensifying, turning northwards (appearing to miss land) only to loop back south and SW towards the Bahamas again as a rapidly intensifying Major Hurricane and then go on to strike South Florida from the east - then head into the Gulf en-route to slam Louisiana a few days later as a major hurricane again. This storm could hit both the Southern tip of Florida & upper Keys and Louisiana as a Cat 3 or Cat 4 hurricane (don’t wanna say Cat 5, but it’s not out of the question)… Essentially this is a Betsy 1965 repeat on crack thanks to climate change, in Wood Snake year fashion. This too would be one of the two most unfortunate scenarios for 2025, a tricky storm that catches many off guard due to its erratic track, and deals a devastating blow to the one part of FL that’s lucked out for a long time. Likeliest to happen in September or Early October.
3.) Approx. between September 15 – October 25… A strong hurricane, possibly Cat 2+, could take a 1893-like path, brushing past the Leewards or Virgin Islands in a NW path, which then bends to the west, passes near or over the Northern Bahamas going WNW and then strikes the northeast coast of FL or SE Georgia while turning north, much like the 1893 Sea Islands hurricane did, making this quite a rare hit. The storm could alternately threaten this part of the US before veering NNE into the Carolinas and heading straight up the Mid-Atlantic and into the Northeast US (like 1821). The hurricane could be quite destructive too, and be long-lived. Cat 3 strike might be possible, even well north. This scenario basically blends the track of the 1893 Cape Verde hurricanes with the several Mid-Atlantic & New England hurricanes of past Snake years such as 1785, 1821 & 1869. This tricky path would be a bit less likely than the previous 2 scenarios.
4.) Approx. between July 25 – November 5… A strong Caribbean cruiser takes place, entering the Caribbean after affecting Barbados & St. Lucia and heading towards Jamaica. The storm will then most likely track NW into Western Cuba and then go into the Gulf to strike the northern Gulf coast between TX and FL Panhandle as maybe a Cat 2 – 3 storm (likelier to happen earlier, July – Sept). A less-likely track after Jamaica would be a dive back to the SW to parallel the north coast of Honduras and then head west towards Belize and into Mexico, also as a strong hurricane (this track would be likelier later in the season, Sept – Nov). Should this storm happen in Late October or November, it could even take a Michelle 2001 track over Cuba (track 9 in the hypothetical map above).
2025 could offer a very interesting type of season we haven’t seen in a while, especially with regards to potentially high-impact trickster tracks and the chance for landfalls in areas not hit in years (like the Mid-Atlantic & Northeast) as well as places that have lucked out in the past several years that could see this streak end this year (Miami for example). 2025 looks like a much more east-based season than the past 5 seasons have been, at least according to this oddball experiment. Heads up just in case my wacky crystal ball ends up being close to reality!
Alright guys, all that which you've read is just my 2 crazy cents, so please take all of the above with a grain of salt. As I’ve mentioned before, This thread is experimental and probably geared more towards amusement rather than serious predictions, so take this as my disclaimer. The future conditions of the Atlantic, i.e. the SST's, ENSO, Teleconnections, MDR favorability, SAL and other meteorological indicators/factors will have the ultimate say in how the season goes, and these factors could easily change as we head into the peak of hurricane season.
Alright, let’s see how 2025 evolves over the next several months, it should be fun and exciting to watch and see if this esoteric stuff has any real meaning to the hurricane season once again!
Feel free to ask me questions or write whatever you wish here. We can track 2025 here too, and I’ll
try to keep this thread alive by posting updates, other experimental takes, visuals, and such whenever possible.
-FireRat
May 21 2025
Last edited by FireRat on Wed May 21, 2025 4:43 am, edited 1 time in total.Pl
It took 7 parts just to get this one post from Storm2K in!Part 7
Basically we took 1965’s relatively low numbers 10/4/1 and combined them with 1989’s & 1953’s numbers (as they were “9 years” like 2025). We then took this average blend of these three years and compared them to the average for that Era of 9/5/3 which equaled to that it was 130% busier for NS than normal/ 120% busier for H/ and 67% slower for MH compared to the old average of 9/5/3 from that era.
We subsequently took those NS/H/MH activity ratios of 130%/120%/67% and multiplied them to the most recent 10-year average of 18/8/4 to get the final 23/10/3… a fairly weird result, implying 2025 may be a tricky one folks!
As for the ACE projection, this is simply more guesswork than anything else, a season having 23/10/3 would be likely in my opinion to have an ACE between 125 and 175… especially considering we may have many named systems, and in addition some long trackers like 1989 & 1965 did (Betsy, Hugo), with land interaction at times... which may preventing an ACE over 175+).
I think all that you’ve read up to this point, adds some credence to a fairly busy and Especially TRICKY hurricane season. This is how I think 2025 could end up being, and here goes the elaborated version of this crazy experimental prediction:
2025 Atlantic Hurricane Season Prediction:
2025 ends up with 23 named storms, 10 of which become hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes. There are at least 4 possible scenarios based on the history of Snake Years that could end up being the main highlights of the season impact-wise. The 4 Possible Scenarios for 2025 are as follows, in order from most likely to less likely:
1.) Approx. between August 20 – October 15… There could be a Major Cape Verde Hurricane that passes very near or through the northern Lesser Antilles, which then tracks just north of the Bahamas, possibly brushing or even hitting the northernmost Bahamas before veering to the north. Once heading north, this hurricane would head into either SC or Eastern NC and track right up the Chesapeake. This storm would be like a Hugo 1989 combined with the 1785 Mid Atlantic hurricane. The storm could have a shot at Cat 4/5 before nearing or hitting Puerto Rico & the Virgin Islands, and then subsequently hit the Carolinas as a Cat 3 or Cat 4. This could perhaps be one of the 2 worst case scenarios for 2025, a powerful storm that brings significant impacts to many across the islands and Southeast & Eastern CONUS.
2.) Approx. between August 25 – October 25… A tropical storm forms east of the Leewards, heads towards them only to skirt the northernmost islands or pass right over them, and then head WNW north of the Bahamas, slowly intensifying, turning northwards (appearing to miss land) only to loop back south and SW towards the Bahamas again as a rapidly intensifying Major Hurricane and then go on to strike South Florida from the east - then head into the Gulf en-route to slam Louisiana a few days later as a major hurricane again. This storm could hit both the Southern tip of Florida & upper Keys and Louisiana as a Cat 3 or Cat 4 hurricane (don’t wanna say Cat 5, but it’s not out of the question)… Essentially this is a Betsy 1965 repeat on crack thanks to climate change, in Wood Snake year fashion. This too would be one of the two most unfortunate scenarios for 2025, a tricky storm that catches many off guard due to its erratic track, and deals a devastating blow to the one part of FL that’s lucked out for a long time. Likeliest to happen in September or Early October.
3.) Approx. between September 15 – October 25… A strong hurricane, possibly Cat 2+, could take a 1893-like path, brushing past the Leewards or Virgin Islands in a NW path, which then bends to the west, passes near or over the Northern Bahamas going WNW and then strikes the northeast coast of FL or SE Georgia while turning north, much like the 1893 Sea Islands hurricane did, making this quite a rare hit. The storm could alternately threaten this part of the US before veering NNE into the Carolinas and heading straight up the Mid-Atlantic and into the Northeast US (like 1821). The hurricane could be quite destructive too, and be long-lived. Cat 3 strike might be possible, even well north. This scenario basically blends the track of the 1893 Cape Verde hurricanes with the several Mid-Atlantic & New England hurricanes of past Snake years such as 1785, 1821 & 1869. This tricky path would be a bit less likely than the previous 2 scenarios.
4.) Approx. between July 25 – November 5… A strong Caribbean cruiser takes place, entering the Caribbean after affecting Barbados & St. Lucia and heading towards Jamaica. The storm will then most likely track NW into Western Cuba and then go into the Gulf to strike the northern Gulf coast between TX and FL Panhandle as maybe a Cat 2 – 3 storm (likelier to happen earlier, July – Sept). A less-likely track after Jamaica would be a dive back to the SW to parallel the north coast of Honduras and then head west towards Belize and into Mexico, also as a strong hurricane (this track would be likelier later in the season, Sept – Nov). Should this storm happen in Late October or November, it could even take a Michelle 2001 track over Cuba (track 9 in the hypothetical map above).
2025 could offer a very interesting type of season we haven’t seen in a while, especially with regards to potentially high-impact trickster tracks and the chance for landfalls in areas not hit in years (like the Mid-Atlantic & Northeast) as well as places that have lucked out in the past several years that could see this streak end this year (Miami for example). 2025 looks like a much more east-based season than the past 5 seasons have been, at least according to this oddball experiment. Heads up just in case my wacky crystal ball ends up being close to reality!
Alright guys, all that which you've read is just my 2 crazy cents, so please take all of the above with a grain of salt. As I’ve mentioned before, This thread is experimental and probably geared more towards amusement rather than serious predictions, so take this as my disclaimer. The future conditions of the Atlantic, i.e. the SST's, ENSO, Teleconnections, MDR favorability, SAL and other meteorological indicators/factors will have the ultimate say in how the season goes, and these factors could easily change as we head into the peak of hurricane season.
Alright, let’s see how 2025 evolves over the next several months, it should be fun and exciting to watch and see if this esoteric stuff has any real meaning to the hurricane season once again!
Feel free to ask me questions or write whatever you wish here. We can track 2025 here too, and I’ll
try to keep this thread alive by posting updates, other experimental takes, visuals, and such whenever possible.
-FireRat
May 21 2025
Last edited by FireRat on Wed May 21, 2025 4:43 am, edited 1 time in total.Pl
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That's a bit wild and far fetched. However, I'm definitely intrigued and open to see how well that does.
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