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Severe Threat May 15-16, 2025

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Took this sounding from the north central IN/MI border. NAMNST is only the model that really pays respect to tomorrow's ingredients and has the cap breaking (although that's the usual I feel like from the model). Although I would vew this as the *worst case scenario* (peep the Moore 1999 tornado analog). In all, HRRR/NAM/GFS/RAP kind of just laugh tomorrow off and have the cap remain in place.

I'm going to be honest, I kind of give the IWX area a 20-30% of anything occuring. I'm with the NWS IWX MET's on this event in terms of confidence.
 
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Took this sounding from the north central IN/MI border. NAMNST is only the model that really pays respect to tomorrow's ingredients and has the cap breaking (although that's the usual I feel like from the model). HRRR/NAM/GFS/RAP kind of just laugh it off. I'm going to be honest, I kind of give the IWX a 20-30% of anything occuring. I've never had this low of confidence in a ENH risk actually verifying.
Sooo what happens if the cap breaks? What would the intensity of the outbreak be?
 
Sooo what happens if the cap breaks? What would the intensity of the outbreak be?
I would say if the cap breaks, the threat for the ILX/IWX areas would be supercells capable of producing significant hail (up to baseballs plus), and tornadoes (some of which could be strong) due to the shear rates being around 40-50 knots (similar to what the SPC said).

However, I think it's important to note that my confidence in this happening is fairly low and that any ENH/(10%+ hatched TOR) risk being added would be a *conditional* risk similar to the outlook Illinois saw a couple months ago that produced a plethora of gustnadoes.
 
Not saying it's completely unreliable (because it's not), but I take more times than not what the RRFS is with an extreme grain of salt, since it's an experimental model.
RRFS always seems to print 10 million discrete or semi-discrete supercells for every upcoming event no matter how it looks. It’s not an effective model at all, at least not yet.
 
RRFS always seems to print 10 million discrete or semi-discrete supercells for every upcoming event no matter how it looks. It’s not an effective model at all, at least not yet.
it whiffed so bad on the 4/1 Oklahoma set up. I’m really starting to think both of these set ups on Thursday and Friday just have too many ifs and fail modes to even get a small moderate.
 
it whiffed so bad on the 4/1 Oklahoma set up. I’m really starting to think both of these set ups on Thursday and Friday just have too many ifs and fail modes to even get a small moderate.
It just vomits out the highest end solution possible every time, lol. At least if it doesn’t do that you know the event won’t do much. Friday’s mode has become a much bigger question mark now as well. If the mode cooperates and storms do manage to root themselves quickly, it could be a somewhat significant day for sure.
 
I wonder which vague, yet concerning phrase the hypcasters will choose today lmao.


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Already got one from our good friend Ryan Hall.

Listen man, I get that Ryan Hall helps out the community with his severe weather coverage, but he's still a HUGE part of the problem that is "hypcasting" events. Like seriously bro, just be honest with your thumbnails and titles.
 
It just vomits out the highest end solution possible every time, lol. At least if it doesn’t do that you know the event won’t do much. Friday’s mode has become a much bigger question mark now as well. If the mode cooperates and storms do manage to root themselves quickly, it could be a somewhat significant day for sure.
It's a professional upper bound simulator :D
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Already got one from our good friend Ryan Hall.

Listen man, I get that Ryan Hall helps out the community with his severe weather coverage, but he's still a HUGE part of the problem that is "hypcasting" events. Like seriously bro, just be honest with your thumbnails and titles.
Don't forget "THIS STORM COMING UP IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT"

Regarding the setup itself, as others have said, the question is just if anything of substance forms, and how much. The Ohio Valley into the Midwest seems like the best bet for Thursday and Friday. Further south, I'm skeptical of much occurring, though FFC posits that clusters may grow upscale if they can persist. Along/north of I-40 seems to be the sector to watch.
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.LONG TERM...
(Thursday night through Tuesday)
Issued at 208 AM EDT Wed May 14 2025

Key Messages:

- Afternoon highs likely to be above average through the period

- Chances for thunderstorms (some strong to severe) each
afternoon through early next week

The long term forecast picks up on Friday morning with quasi-zonal
flow at the mid-levels and the western fringes of a broad surface
high overspreading much of the Southeast. Our sensible weather late
week and beyond will be governed by a combination of several
shortwaves traversing the benign mid-level flow, and a frontal
boundary approaching from the northwest beginning early Friday.
Global model guidance suggests the potential for the aforementioned
front to stall out across the midsection of the state, which, in
concert with any reinforcing mid-level perturbations, will serve to
support the development of convection each afternoon. Beginning late
Friday, a mid-level closed low will nudge nearly due eastward across
the Great Lakes toward New England. As it does so, a core of
enhanced flow rounding the base of the broader trough will support a
surge in bulk shear for the northern half of the forecast area (on
the order of 40-60kts per ensembles). Expect strong, unidirectional
shear profiles to linger until the closed low begins to exit the
Eastern Seaboard Monday into Tuesday, which combined with
instability on the order of 1000-2000 J/kg, may allow for upscale
growth of any patchy convection into a more organized complex of
storms. Both GFS and Euro guidance show signals that suggest
multiple waves of semi-organized thunderstorms are possible Friday
through Monday. No areas are currently formally outlooked by SPC,
but strong to marginally severe storms seem most probable early
Saturday into Sunday when frontal forcing is most potent. Our
primary concern within any lines of thunderstorms will be the
potential for isolated damaging wind gusts embedded within the
strongest segments of the line.

Thanks to a conveyor belt of warm, moist, southwesterly fetch off of
the Gulf at the surface, temperatures will soar through the
extended. Highs are likely to top out in the mid-80s to mid-90s each
day (aside from the terrain of northeast Georgia, which is progged
to remain in the mid-70s to lower-80s), as much as 8-12 degrees
above average. Will need to keep an eye on the impacts of convective
coverage on temperatures on Friday and Saturday, as Atlanta may
approach record highs both days. Expect lows in the lower 60s to
lower 70s each night.

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