tornado examiner
Member
- Messages
- 2,224
- Location
- texas
Btw mayfield Kentucky is in that high risk.
Oof. Their first high risk since the catastrophe
Oof. Their first high risk since the catastrophe
Even then, it wasn’t a high risk. Certainly had the thermos for one. Just having that in December was unheard of.Btw mayfield Kentucky is in that high risk.
Oof. Their first high risk since the catastrophe
Happening slightly here up in KC too, although a larger increase is expected for us as the main line moves closer. Fully expect to get woken up by the weather radio here in a few hours lolTemoeratures and dewpoints are notably rising here after dark. This is not normal and a major alarm bell for the severe threat here in the next several hours.
I didn’t mean to imply I think that day should have been a high risk. My badEven then, it wasn’t a high risk. Certainly had the thermos for one. Just having that in December was unheard of.
Oh no you’re completely right. That day could’ve went with a high. Just nobody has ever seen such an environment in December and something like that in the Ohio valley.I didn’t mean to imply I think that day should have been a high risk. My bad
Personally, I believe the ceiling is well into high risk criteria, but the abundance of potential failure modes would have absolutely held me back from pulling the trigger on a high risk here. The ceiling for this event is really crazy though, that’s for certain.Sure, but still very surprised, considering with this setup there's fail modes to be found quite easily. However, the ceiling is arguably high risk criteria.
I guess they’re thinking they see more of the ceiling being close to being met more than anything? Always thought storm mode was one of the more bigger questions. But I guess they’re thinking otherwise.Personally, I believe the ceiling is well into high risk criteria, but I believe the abundance of potential failure modes would have absolutely held me back from pulling the trigger on a high risk here. The ceiling for this event is really crazy though, that’s for certain.
Trey discussion to come .. lolI honestly don’t agree with the high risk, the potential is there, but I’m not sure what they’re seeing that makes them confident enough to issue such a thing.
Obviously they’re the experts but the failure modes for this are obvious.
Guess we’ll see how it plays out, and again, I don’t disagree that the potential is there, I just don’t know where the confidence stems from.
Confidence has to be based off kinematics alone and not from the composite model, unless SPC took into consideration the NAM, HRW FV3, and RRFS models that were more discrete.I honestly don’t agree with the high risk, the potential is there, but I’m not sure what they’re seeing that makes them confident enough to issue such a thing.
Obviously they’re the experts but the failure modes for this are obvious.
Guess we’ll see how it plays out, and again, I don’t disagree that the potential is there, I just don’t know where this confidence stems from.
I was looking at the same thing. Where they have the high seems to be more of a linear line. I expect some supercells to be embedded or ahead of the line. Just an unusually odd forecast.I mean the latest HRRR run (05z) is being really weird with this setup compared to the outlook. The tornado risk (STP value wise) looks to be most elevated in northern IL/IN, compared to the Paducah KY region like the high risk suggests. Storm mode is mediocre at best as well:
View attachment 38363
View attachment 38365
I don’t watch this guy or anyone else since I know enough about what I’m looking at.Trey discussion to come .. lol
He sees the flies in the ointment sometimes more then SPC.I don’t watch this guy or anyone else since I know enough about what I’m looking at.
But I’m gonna assume he has at least a similar opinion.
Ehh I wouldn't go that far but I understand what you mean.He sees the flies in the ointment sometimes more then SPC.
It just seems to be he isn’t as bullish as SPC sometimes and has been right..Ehh I wouldn't go that far but I understand what you mean.