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Severe potential 2/23-2/25

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I'm more than a bit angry about the way this event was handled, by both the NWS and TWC. Two key warning outlets were not on top of their game today, and it cost lives. Two different NWS missed key warnings on tornadoes. Shameful that this could've been prevented, yet warnings weren't issued on tornadoes that were on the ground until they'd already lifted. I don't know if it's complacency, laziness, or poor attention to detail, but when lives are cost at the hands of a professional dropping the ball, you can't expect anybody to be happy.
 

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I'm more than a bit angry about the way this event was handled, by both the NWS and TWC. Two key warning outlets were not on top of their game today, and it cost lives. Two different NWS missed key warnings on tornadoes. Shameful that this could've been prevented, yet warnings weren't issued on tornadoes that were on the ground until they'd already lifted. I don't know if it's complacency, laziness, or poor attention to detail, but when lives are cost at the hands of a professional dropping the ball, you can't expect anybody to be happy.

it seems to me the better the technology is getting the worse the forcast and coverage
 

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NWS' miss on the tornado in Kentucky was especially bad since that was a supercell out in front of the line rather than a quick spin-up or something, where it might be more understandable. I don't want to jump in and pile on, but it's really inexcusable for the tornado to be on the ground and showing a TDS before the warning is issued.
 

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he National Weather Service in Memphis has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
Northwestern Tishomingo County in northeastern Mississippi...
Northern Prentiss County in northeastern Mississippi...
Southeastern Alcorn County in northeastern Mississippi...

* Until 1045 PM CST
 
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Tornado warning for Alcorn, Prentiss, and Tishomingo counties.

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WFUS54 KMEG 250400
TORMEG
MSC003-117-141-250445-
/O.NEW.KMEG.TO.W.0014.180225T0400Z-180225T0445Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
Tornado Warning
National Weather Service Memphis TN
1000 PM CST SAT FEB 24 2018

The National Weather Service in Memphis has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
Northwestern Tishomingo County in northeastern Mississippi...
Northern Prentiss County in northeastern Mississippi...
Southeastern Alcorn County in northeastern Mississippi...

* Until 1045 PM CST

* At 1000 PM CST, a severe thunderstorm producing a tornado was
located over Jumpertown, or 8 miles northwest of Booneville, moving
northeast at 45 mph.

HAZARD...Tornado and quarter size hail.

SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation.

IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without
shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed.
Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree
damage is likely.

* Locations impacted include...
Booneville, Iuka, Burnsville, Jumpertown, Glen, Hinkle, Midway,
Leedy, Rienzi, Doskie, Gaston, Hazard Switch, Walker Siding, Holcut
and Holts Spur.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a storm shelter or an interior room on the
lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are
outdoors, in a mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest
substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3473 8818 3469 8872 3476 8872 3495 8823
TIME...MOT...LOC 0400Z 243DEG 37KT 3473 8869

TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED
HAIL...1.00IN

$$
 

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another one

The National Weather Service in Memphis has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
Northeastern Union County in northeastern Mississippi...
Northeastern Lee County in northeastern Mississippi...
Western Prentiss County in northeastern Mississippi...

* Until 1045 PM CST
 

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I had an internship at the NWS in Jacksonville and one of the things I noticed is that they very rarely actually utilized the tools they had for making tornado warnings; it's not that hard to cover an area and notice when tornadoes are popping up. I rarely saw them utilizing dual-pol products and even SRV to some extent and I think that may be some of what we're seeing. It's all speculation on why they missed this so badly, but when the tornado lifts before a warning is even issued, you know somebody didn't do their job.
 

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Actually, these warnings in MS are sort of proving my point; none of them have strong couplets or debris signatures on radar, yet the NWS is reporting that there are radar confirmed tornadoes? Are they even using the technology armchair meterologists like us have access to?
 

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They're in an area where they're kinda far away from both the Memphis and Columbus radars (plus there's something funky going on with the Columbus radar on RadarScope).
 

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"radar confirmed tornadoes", yet the signature i previously posted didn't even get warned until 15 minutes later. What is going on with the NWS????

on another note, the southernmost storm is starting to wrap up quite a bit.
 

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Yeah, they don't look that impressive. I wonder if NWS Memphis is just forgetting to add "capable of" in front of "producing"?
When I was at NWS Jax they had templates for each kind of tornado warning, so either their "capable of producing" template is messed up or their just overcompensating for the known issues earlier today. The latter seems somewhat likely, actually.
 
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