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Sig tor values creeping up on the SREF for Saturday evening and night towards Ark/La/Miss region.
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Severe potential 2/23-2/25
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Kory
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The big story for AL may be the heavy rainfall threat. The squall line will weaken and come to a halt with another wave developing along that front as the trough kicks out. 2-3" rainfall stripe across the 20/59 corridor is showing up on guidance.
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Couple streaks on the southern end of that thing.
tennessee storm chaser
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nasty hodos i have seen on another site for memphis tn area late saturday afternoon
Day 2 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1251 AM CST Fri Feb 23 2018
Valid 241200Z - 251200Z
...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM PARTS OF
THE ARKLATEX INTO THE LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...
...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM PARTS OF
NORTHEAST TEXAS INTO THE LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND TENNESSEE
VALLEYS...
...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM PARTS OF
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD
INTO THE OHIO VALLEY...
...SUMMARY...
Scattered strong to severe thunderstorms are expected to develop and
move east-northeastward on Saturday from parts of northeast Texas
into the lower to mid Mississippi and Tennessee Valleys. Tornadoes,
wind damage and hail will be possible with the more intense storms.
...Arklatex/Lower to Mid Mississippi Valley/Ohio Valley...
An upper-level trough will move from the Rockies into the Great
Plains on Saturday. Ahead of the system, a moist airmass will be in
place at the start of the period from East Texas extending
northeastward into southern parts of the mid Mississippi Valley.
Elevated thunderstorms should be ongoing in the vicinity of
Dallas/Fort Worth around 12Z. This convection is forecast to expand
in coverage, moving eastward into the Arklatex where a 40 to 60 kt
low-level jet will strengthen. As surface temperatures warm during
the day, the convection is forecast to gradually become
surface-based. A cluster of storms should become organized as it
moves east-northeastward from far northeast Texas across southern
and eastern Arkansas during the afternoon. This activity should
eventually affect northwest Mississippi, western Tennessee and far
western Kentucky by evening.
Ahead of the system moving into the Great Plains, a 75 to 90 kt
mid-level jet will translate east-northeastward from the southern
Plains into the Ozarks. This feature will create strong deep-layer
shear profiles favorable for severe storms along the southeastern
periphery of the mid-level jet. Strong lift and 0-6 km shear in the
55 to 65 kt range, evident on forecast soundings, will support
supercell development. Supercells that interact with the western
edge of the low-level jet from far northeast Texas into southern and
central Arkansas will have tornado potential. NAM forecast soundings
across southern Arkansas at 21Z on Saturday show 0-3 km storm
relative helicities near 300 m2/s2 which should be favorable for a
few strong tornadoes. Supercells and the stronger multicells
embedded in the cluster should also be associated with wind damage
and hail. The wind damage threat could increase as the cluster
transitions into a line segment, moving eastward from eastern
Arkansas into northwest Mississippi, western Tennessee and far
western Kentucky by Saturday evening.
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Yeah, strong tor wording by the SPC. Some of the soundings out of Ark/La/Miss region support it. We know this thing is gonna go linear as the evening progresses, but how fast it does so will determine the threat from the supercellular storms.
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Do you see any early indications of less cloud cover beforehand?Yeah, strong tor wording by the SPC. Some of the soundings out of Ark/La/Miss region support it. We know this thing is gonna go linear as the evening progresses, but how fast it does so will determine the threat from the supercellular storms.
Jason Ledbetter
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Any thoughts on this system affecting Ga as it moves east? North west Ga specifically.
tennessee storm chaser
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Should be. Little if any as slp moves well nw of you. Taking the dynamics with it ... system next week may effect more of the Dixie alley as Kory mentioned
Equus
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Unfortunately, the highest parameters correspond nicely with one of the most aggravating radar holes in the southeast. Definitely armchair chasing this one anyway though.
rolltide_130
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I see a lot of failure modes with this event which worries me. Early junk and lapse rates being big ones with another being the trough becoming a tad less impressive. It has a lot of potential but I see Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency ingredients as well..
rolltide_130
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No significant threat for Georgia. Any severe will be marginal. The trough will be moving off to the north and the line will be just showers and maybe a strong storm as it crosses the state line.
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Update to the Day 2 outlook...they changed AL from "slight" to "marginal" except for the very NW corner.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html
Eastern AR is looking pretty good. I may be waking up at 5, and heading that way tomorrow.
I saw some indication of prefrontal supercells on the high res NAM. Fairly decent parameters in place that would support a strong, long track tornado. WRF has interesting spots too. I can’t wait to see the HRRR. Hopefully, it’ll show some goods. I’m getting everything packed now. I plan to leave around 5, and get out there around noonish.
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How’s it looking for Northwest MS?
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Good luck and stay safe!!
tennessee storm chaser
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i got work tomorrow. blah...other wise i be headed out...hate miss first chase day... but i keep up with it since its going effect my area... i would start out toward pine bluff ark... then work way back from to the east northeast... yeh short range models picking up on some prefontal discrete activity... spc hints at a couple or so strong tornadoes late tomorrow... i wont get much work done tomorrow at work promise you that lol
tennessee storm chaser
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nw ms looks to be very much in game... i made big mistake and quoted you earlier and meant to quote jason in gerogia.lol nw ms in a prime spot late tomorrow be weary in late day... curious how far east some discrete can make it... .
Equus
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Slight and Enhanced pulled a little east again. 10% hatched TOR in a corridor from S IL to N LA, interested to see if storm mode lets that play out.
Day 1 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1146 PM CST Fri Feb 23 2018
Valid 241200Z - 251200Z
...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON
THROUGH THIS EVENING ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN
ARKANSAS...NORTHERN LOUISIANA...NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI....A
PORTION OF NORTHWESTERN ALABAMA...WESTERN TENNESSEE...SOUTHEASTERN
MISSOURI...SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...WESTERN KENTUCKY AND A PORTION OF
SOUTHERN INDIANA...
...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS SURROUNDING
AREAS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN LOWER PLAINS...THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI AND
LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...
...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS SURROUNDING THE
SLIGHT RISK...AS FAR NORTH AND EAST AS THE SOUTHERN GREAT
LAKES...UPPER OHIO VALLEY AND WESTERN SLOPES OF THE APPALACHIANS BY
DAYBREAK SUNDAY...
...SUMMARY...
Severe thunderstorms are expected to develop today through tonight
across the Ark-La-Tex region, east northeastward through the lower
Mississippi and Ohio Valleys. These will be accompanied by
potential for damaging wind gusts and a few tornadoes, a couple of
which could be strong.
...Discussion...
Subtropical ridging centered near the south Atlantic coast continues
to weaken, but appears likely to maintain a prominent influence
across much of the Southeast through this period. As it does, a
vigorous and progressive short wave trough, now beginning to pivot
northeast of the Four Corners region, is forecast to take on a
negative tilt and accelerate northeastward through the Upper Midwest
by 12Z Sunday, as another significant upstream short wave trough
digs across the Great Basin. At the same time, models indicate that
a strong subtropical jet streak will nose across the Texas Big Bend
region, toward the Ozark Plateau and lower Ohio Valleys.
In response to these developments, fairly strong surface
cyclogenesis still seems probable across the central U.S. today
through tonight. There has been variability among the model output
concerning the evolution, likely at least in part due to the slow
erosion of a lingering shallow wedge of cold surface-based air over
the southern Plains. While the onset of more rapid deepening of the
surface low remains in question, it now seems most probable that
surface frontal wave development will take shape over northeastern
Oklahoma into the Missouri Ozarks by midday today, before deepening
more rapidly while migrating northeastward, and eventually occluding
over the Upper Midwest by early Sunday.
Strengthening wind fields (to 50-70 kt in the 850-500 mb layer) and
shear within a large portion of the developing warm sector will
contribute to increasing severe weather potential ahead of a
southeastward advancing cold front trailing from the surface
cyclone, as southerly return flow off the northwestern Gulf of
Mexico supports an influx of high moisture content air. However,
less than optimal thermodynamic profiles due to potential widespread
convective development and cloud cover may temper this risk
somewhat. Regardless, severe thunderstorm development still seems
probable across portions of the southeastern Plains into the Ozark
Plateau by midday, before increasing across the lower Mississippi
into lower Ohio Valleys late this afternoon and evening.
...Southern Plains into Ohio Valley...
The rather broad western/northwestern gradient of severe
probabilities is generally reflective of lingering uncertainty
concerning the specific track of the surface cyclone and timing of
its most rapid deepening. The broad eastern/southeastern gradient
generally reflects uncertainties associated with late night timing
and the likelihood of progressively weaker warm sector instability.
Severe weather potential still seems likely to become maximized
across parts of southern and eastern Arkansas into adjacent portions
of the lower Ohio Valley late this afternoon and evening, when/where
it appears that forcing for ascent and strong shear profiles may
best coincide with at least modest boundary layer instability (CAPE
on the order of 500-1000 J/kg). Substantive intensification of a
pre-frontal squall line is expected during this period, and
sustained discrete supercell development appears possible just ahead
of the line. In the presence of a moist boundary layer with surface
dew points in the mid 60s F, rather large and clockwise curved
low-level hodographs will support the risk for a few tornadoes. One
or two of these could potentially be long-lived/tracked and strong.
Otherwise, damage wind gusts are expected to become the primary
threat with the evolving line, which will spread across and east of
the lower Mississippi Valley late this evening through the overnight
hours.
It still appears that the strong/severe thunderstorm development
could commence near or shortly after day break today across parts of
central and northwest Texas. Aided by forcing for ascent associated
with low-level warm advection, beneath increasingly divergent upper
flow associated with coupling subtropical and polar jets, a sizable
cluster of storms may evolve across the Red River Valley into parts
of the Ozark Plateau through the midday/early afternoon hours. This
may mostly be rooted above lingering cold/stable surface-based air,
with severe hail the primary hazard. However, at some point this
may become increasingly rooted within a destabilizing boundary layer
across the Ark-La-Tex into the lower Mississippi Valley. As alluded
to earlier, this seems most probable across southern/eastern
Arkansas and adjacent northern Louisiana late this afternoon.
However, it is possible that a severe wind/tornado threat could
commence earlier and to the west.
Day 1 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1146 PM CST Fri Feb 23 2018
Valid 241200Z - 251200Z
...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON
THROUGH THIS EVENING ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN
ARKANSAS...NORTHERN LOUISIANA...NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI....A
PORTION OF NORTHWESTERN ALABAMA...WESTERN TENNESSEE...SOUTHEASTERN
MISSOURI...SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...WESTERN KENTUCKY AND A PORTION OF
SOUTHERN INDIANA...
...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS SURROUNDING
AREAS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN LOWER PLAINS...THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI AND
LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...
...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS SURROUNDING THE
SLIGHT RISK...AS FAR NORTH AND EAST AS THE SOUTHERN GREAT
LAKES...UPPER OHIO VALLEY AND WESTERN SLOPES OF THE APPALACHIANS BY
DAYBREAK SUNDAY...
...SUMMARY...
Severe thunderstorms are expected to develop today through tonight
across the Ark-La-Tex region, east northeastward through the lower
Mississippi and Ohio Valleys. These will be accompanied by
potential for damaging wind gusts and a few tornadoes, a couple of
which could be strong.
...Discussion...
Subtropical ridging centered near the south Atlantic coast continues
to weaken, but appears likely to maintain a prominent influence
across much of the Southeast through this period. As it does, a
vigorous and progressive short wave trough, now beginning to pivot
northeast of the Four Corners region, is forecast to take on a
negative tilt and accelerate northeastward through the Upper Midwest
by 12Z Sunday, as another significant upstream short wave trough
digs across the Great Basin. At the same time, models indicate that
a strong subtropical jet streak will nose across the Texas Big Bend
region, toward the Ozark Plateau and lower Ohio Valleys.
In response to these developments, fairly strong surface
cyclogenesis still seems probable across the central U.S. today
through tonight. There has been variability among the model output
concerning the evolution, likely at least in part due to the slow
erosion of a lingering shallow wedge of cold surface-based air over
the southern Plains. While the onset of more rapid deepening of the
surface low remains in question, it now seems most probable that
surface frontal wave development will take shape over northeastern
Oklahoma into the Missouri Ozarks by midday today, before deepening
more rapidly while migrating northeastward, and eventually occluding
over the Upper Midwest by early Sunday.
Strengthening wind fields (to 50-70 kt in the 850-500 mb layer) and
shear within a large portion of the developing warm sector will
contribute to increasing severe weather potential ahead of a
southeastward advancing cold front trailing from the surface
cyclone, as southerly return flow off the northwestern Gulf of
Mexico supports an influx of high moisture content air. However,
less than optimal thermodynamic profiles due to potential widespread
convective development and cloud cover may temper this risk
somewhat. Regardless, severe thunderstorm development still seems
probable across portions of the southeastern Plains into the Ozark
Plateau by midday, before increasing across the lower Mississippi
into lower Ohio Valleys late this afternoon and evening.
...Southern Plains into Ohio Valley...
The rather broad western/northwestern gradient of severe
probabilities is generally reflective of lingering uncertainty
concerning the specific track of the surface cyclone and timing of
its most rapid deepening. The broad eastern/southeastern gradient
generally reflects uncertainties associated with late night timing
and the likelihood of progressively weaker warm sector instability.
Severe weather potential still seems likely to become maximized
across parts of southern and eastern Arkansas into adjacent portions
of the lower Ohio Valley late this afternoon and evening, when/where
it appears that forcing for ascent and strong shear profiles may
best coincide with at least modest boundary layer instability (CAPE
on the order of 500-1000 J/kg). Substantive intensification of a
pre-frontal squall line is expected during this period, and
sustained discrete supercell development appears possible just ahead
of the line. In the presence of a moist boundary layer with surface
dew points in the mid 60s F, rather large and clockwise curved
low-level hodographs will support the risk for a few tornadoes. One
or two of these could potentially be long-lived/tracked and strong.
Otherwise, damage wind gusts are expected to become the primary
threat with the evolving line, which will spread across and east of
the lower Mississippi Valley late this evening through the overnight
hours.
It still appears that the strong/severe thunderstorm development
could commence near or shortly after day break today across parts of
central and northwest Texas. Aided by forcing for ascent associated
with low-level warm advection, beneath increasingly divergent upper
flow associated with coupling subtropical and polar jets, a sizable
cluster of storms may evolve across the Red River Valley into parts
of the Ozark Plateau through the midday/early afternoon hours. This
may mostly be rooted above lingering cold/stable surface-based air,
with severe hail the primary hazard. However, at some point this
may become increasingly rooted within a destabilizing boundary layer
across the Ark-La-Tex into the lower Mississippi Valley. As alluded
to earlier, this seems most probable across southern/eastern
Arkansas and adjacent northern Louisiana late this afternoon.
However, it is possible that a severe wind/tornado threat could
commence earlier and to the west.