Unless we have a smithville type tornado strike Moore directly I doubt the EF5 rating will ever be used again.
The LB for DOD 10 is 165mph, and the UB is 220mph, so a DOD 10 can be anything in that range. Though it is slightly ambiguous, I think they are stating the 185mph to be the damage in this particular photo (which I would say is pretty fairly applied in the context of the current scale), rather than the new EXP for DOD 10. Though admittedly, the realistic EXP nowadays is basically 170-180mph with 190-200mph being the UB and as low as 125mph being a LB (????). Clearly the point you are making about the scale being flawed still stands.
yep the only tornado that doesn't have the Vilonia / Mayfield / bowling green issue.
As much as I tend to stay conservative with tornado ratings, iirc the concrete wall at the one EF5 house should have easily justified a >240 mph rating. I agree that it’s easily the most bulletproof EF5 rating for sure.
Out of curiosity, how would you say TW compares to other weather forums in this regard?
ya this bothers me more because there is one point everyone seems to forget...
This is my only WX forum too. The reasons for that is that there are more knowledgeable people here, both amateur and professional, than anywhere else I could find. The member-base is widespread but has a lot from the SE USA where I am. No blind fanboys here playing 'yesman' even if some of us do have favorites. Discussions are in-depth and factual, and dissension is tolerated with good moderation to keep personal attacks out of it.
Yep, nothing really new about the strong disagreements over the EF scale except more and more data showing (proving?) it really is broken. And still pretty much the same debates as to the cause and the correct fix. In all this time the 'official' side has hardly acknowledged us and has certainly not deeply addressed our contentions, and that refusal to listen and see has grown stronger over time. The root of the problem is clearly systemic and not peripheral in only a few scattered places such as DI's and DOD's and measured windspeeds. The problem is in who is running the system and how that is being done. I see no changes there so I hold little hopes for things getting much better.
But then you'd have a spate of 185's instead of 195's so that wouldn't really fix things. What needs to happen is to remove the people who do things like this and those who oversee them and allow it to happen.
