TornadoFan
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Wichita Falls storm just went tornado warned. Numerous funnel clouds reported.
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Svr Wx threat March 24-26th 2024
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SmokeEater
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There's something you don't see every day, tornado warning and blizzard warning for the same county in N KS.
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warneagle
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#snowwedges
TheSuckZone
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Apparently DDC missed another tornado warning tonight. Early reports were saying it was just a landspout but the videos and pictures I've seen thus far sure look like low end tornado damage.
MattPetrulli
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Tomorrow looks like your average mid 10 % hatched Dixie Day. Not impressed at all by it. Bit surprised by the 10 hatched, thought a large 5% would suffice. I think the real tornado threat is out of the QLCS in MS rather than supercells in LA/West MS.
CheeselandSkies
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It being a landspout would be no excuse, since a landspout *is* a tornado by definition since it meets all the criteria (unlike, say, a 'gustnado'), although they are less likely to be strong/violent than mesocyclonic tornadoes. I don't recall there being anything in the NWS bylaws stating you can only warn for mesocyclonic tornadoes...
Their rebuttal: “No”
All kidding aside, a landspout IS a low-end tornado and is every bit as eligible for a Tornado Warning as a mesocyclonic one.
I think the word “landspout” sometimes gets misused as a “cover our butts” term to make missed warnings seem more excusable. The Montebello, CA EF1 last year was falsely slapped with the “landspout” label despite clearly being a mesocyclonic tornado spawned by a low topped supercell. Warning was missed on that one too. The 2015 Moore EF2 was “a mix of straight line winds and gustnadoes” until it was undeniable that a strong tornado had occurred. Missed warning as well.
After a while you start to see a bit of a pattern of diminutive/dismissive wording when it comes to damaging tornadoes that weren’t warned.
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Potential for strong squall line tornadoes today oof.
JPWX
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Is it 7:30 or 8am when the 1300z Day 1 Outlook releases? I can't remember
CheeselandSkies
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1300z = 8 AM CDT. However sometimes they get it done early (or more often, late on the big days when a lot of people are really anticipating it).
JPWX
Member
Alright. I'll keep that in mind. Knew it was somewhere within that timeframe. Thank you
CheeselandSkies
Member
Zulu time is 6 hours ahead of CST and five hours ahead of CDT.
Scheduled Day 1 outlook times are:
0600Z = 1AM CDT (Valid starting 12Z or 7AM CDT)
1300Z = 8AM CDT
1630Z = 11:30AM CDT
2000Z = 3:00 PM CDT
0100Z = 8:00 PM CDT previous day
Scheduled Day 1 outlook times are:
0600Z = 1AM CDT (Valid starting 12Z or 7AM CDT)
1300Z = 8AM CDT
1630Z = 11:30AM CDT
2000Z = 3:00 PM CDT
0100Z = 8:00 PM CDT previous day
I'm guessing the SPC is doing the 10% hatched because of the intense low level shear.
Justin Hindman Hindy
Member
Bc their is only cell on the HRRR that congeals in the line but just being careful in case it drops a tornado lol.
Man I'm not overly impressed by the looks. But watch this will be a huge producer because I say that.
warneagle
Member
It’s a classic “if we can get supercell(s) then there’s high end potential but it’s a big if” situation.
Well the trend on the HRRR makes it look a bit more plausible lol
Huh
