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Severe WX Severe Weather Threat 3/14-3/16

UncleJuJu98 said:
I think this one will rank more closely to super Tuesday tornado outbreak in terms of violent/strong tornadoes
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Super Tuesday’s overall violent count was aided by those OWS cells inexplicably firing in Alabama & Mississippi ahead of the dry line/cold front. You got two additional EF4s after the main event had pretty much wrapped up. And well after dark at that.
 
UncleJuJu98 said:
I think this one will rank more closely to super Tuesday tornado outbreak in terms of violent/strong tornadoes
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Interestingly, Super Tuesday was one of the events used as an example in the figures Grantham put up in the Severe 2025 thread.
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slenker said:
If there ends up being a substantial amount of violent-rated tornadoes, like more than six, then I would put it in Palm Sunday’s ballpark. But only because if Palm Sunday occurred now the amount of violent-rated tornadoes would be surely less than 10.
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Which Palm Sunday? 65? Heck no. that's a pretty wild exaggeration as far as Palm Sunday. I get what you're saying - it was underrated in its time, and that includes "F3s" like LaPaz, Indiana - but the F4s of that outbreak were just utterly undeniable. And, I should add, all of those were what I'd call, high end at minimum.

Palm Sunday 65 was a legitimate super outbreak.
 
Aaron Rider said:
Which Palm Sunday? 65? Heck no. that's a pretty wild exaggeration as far as Palm Sunday. I get what you're saying - it was underrated in its time, and that includes "F3s" like LaPaz, Indiana - but the F4s of that outbreak were just utterly undeniable. And, I should add, all of those were what I'd call, high end at minimum.

Palm Sunday 65 was a legitimate super outbreak.
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Most of the time when Southerners talk about Palm Sunday, it's in reference to the one in '94.
 
Aaron Rider said:
Which Palm Sunday? 65? Heck no. that's a pretty wild exaggeration as far as Palm Sunday. I get what you're saying - it was underrated in its time, and that includes "F3s" like LaPaz, Indiana - but the F4s of that outbreak were just utterly undeniable. And, I should add, all of those were what I'd call, high end at minimum.

Palm Sunday 65 was a legitimate super outbreak.
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Yes, I was referring to this outbreak. I assumed Palm Sunday’s F4s were not super high-end because there weren’t any F5s, and I was under the impression that the F5 rating during that time period was far easier to achieve. Forgive me if I’m incorrect about that. I’d love to see damage photos from the tornadoes on that day.

I still believe Palm Sunday was more intense as well, by a pretty comfortable margin. But this outbreak, if it gets more than 5 or 6 violent tornadoes and ends up getting an EF5 tornado in Diaz, will absolutely be able to at least be comparable to it. I don’t want to get too sidetracked here so if you wish to carry this convo over to DMs I’m open to that.
 
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I just want to say, this is probably going to be the creepiest and also top 3 favorite night time tornado capture of the year. Almost like rolling fork and other notable ones, a demon in the darkness. Something about night time tornadoes that is so thrilling and exciting but scary as s***.
 
slenker said:
I assumed Palm Sunday’s F4s were not super high-end because there weren’t any F5s, and I was under the impression that the F5 rating during that time period was far easier to achieve. Forgive me if I’m incorrect about that. I’d love to see damage photos from the tornadoes on that day.

I still believe Palm Sunday was more intense as well, by a pretty comfortable margin. But this outbreak, if it gets more than 5 or 6 violent tornadoes and ends up getting an EF5 tornado in Diaz, will absolutely be able to at least be comparable to it. I don’t want to get too sidetracked here so if you wish to carry this convo over to DMs I’m open to that.
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If we're talking about 1965, then I'd disagree. IIRC the outbreak was rated unusually conservatively for an outbreak of that era, and produced widespread damage that would've been impressive even in modern day.
 
eep said:
If we're talking about 1965, then I'd disagree. IIRC the outbreak was rated unusually conservatively for an outbreak of that era, and produced widespread damage that would've been impressive even in modern day.
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After reading up on Super Tuesday 2008 a bit more, then I digress on what I said earlier and will shift my opinion towards it being a much closer match to that outbreak.
 
slenker said:
Yes, I was referring to this outbreak. I assumed Palm Sunday’s F4s were not super high-end because there weren’t any F5s, and I was under the impression that the F5 rating during that time period was far easier to achieve. Forgive me if I’m incorrect about that. I’d love to see damage photos from the tornadoes on that day.

I still believe Palm Sunday was more intense as well, by a pretty comfortable margin. But this outbreak, if it gets more than 5 or 6 violent tornadoes and ends up getting an EF5 tornado in Diaz, will absolutely be able to at least be comparable to it. I don’t want to get too sidetracked here so if you wish to carry this convo over to DMs I’m open to that.
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Here's a good start on Palm Sunday 65 by a board member. https://stormstalker.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/1965-palm-sunday/

Of the F4s, the vast majority of them were extremely violent and regularly on the cusp of legitimate freak of nature F5. My opinion, Pittsfield Ohio, Dunlap (Sunnyside) IN, and Russiaville-Greentown IN were fairly obviously F5s - on top of totally obliterating homes and cars, these all scoured the land extensively and granulated debris.

But I'm not kidding when I say there's almost another dozen tornadoes that day in the ball park plus one "F1" in Wisconsin that I'm assuming was just missed or something. I believe that was Como Lake, WI. Probably another F4.

There were a crazy amount of terrifying tornadoes with lake in the name that day: Rainbow, Como, Coldwater, Koontz, and one violent one in Illinois the name of which escapes me.

Anyway, not to distract too much from this thread. Enjoy the linked article! It's amazing work
 
Kds86z said:
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I just want to say, this is probably going to be the creepiest and also top 3 favorite night time tornado capture of the year. Almost like rolling fork and other notable ones, a demon in the darkness. Something about night time tornadoes that is so thrilling and exciting but scary as s***.
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This is like .. poster or book cover worthy. Twister movie promotion. Ok I’m done. Just wow.. props to Brad Arnold
 
Aaron Rider said:
Here's a good start on Palm Sunday 65 by a board member. https://stormstalker.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/1965-palm-sunday/

Of the F4s, the vast majority of them were extremely violent and regularly on the cusp of legitimate freak of nature F5. My opinion, Pittsfield Ohio, Dunlap (Sunnyside) IN, and Russiaville-Greentown IN were fairly obviously F5s - on top of totally obliterating homes and cars, these all scoured the land extensively and granulated debris.

But I'm not kidding when I say there's almost another dozen tornadoes that day in the ball park plus one "F1" in Wisconsin that I'm assuming was just missed or something. I believe that was Como Lake, WI. Probably another F4.

There were a crazy amount of terrifying tornadoes with lake in the name that day: Rainbow, Como, Coldwater, Koontz, and one violent one in Illinois the name of which escapes me.

Anyway, not to distract too much from this thread. Enjoy the linked article! It's amazing work
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It’s rare to see a 135 kt jet in a major winter storm. Now superimpose that over a warm sector with a LLJ out of the south and 60+ dew points.
 
Kds86z said:
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I just want to say, this is probably going to be the creepiest and also top 3 favorite night time tornado capture of the year. Almost like rolling fork and other notable ones, a demon in the darkness. Something about night time tornadoes that is so thrilling and exciting but scary as s***.
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Hauntingly brings back the still images of the Greensburg tornado

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