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Severe Weather 2024

ashtonlemleywx said:
Social media has gotten unusable lately. Worst it's ever been. Between the election conspiracies, the government Hurricane conspiracies, and now every aircraft being a "Drone"...the outlook for people like us relaying life saving information to the public during storms is looking grim.

There is going to come a point where we are just chasing for ourselves because nobody believes what's truth anymore.
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Thankfully the people who follow me for wx on FB know if I say take cover, you better take cover.
 
MichelleH said:
Actually, the ones I'm referring to are talking about "lots of F5s" and several referencing April 27th. (Insert eyeroll here)
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O yes. I'm thankfully not on social anymore, but I'm not surprised by that. Seems it's like that with every single severe weather event now. Could this be like April 27th all over again? Click here for more info
 
ashtonlemleywx said:
Social media has gotten unusable lately. Worst it's ever been. Between the election conspiracies, the government Hurricane conspiracies, and now every aircraft being a "Drone"...the outlook for people like us relaying life saving information to the public during storms is looking grim.

There is going to come a point where we are just chasing for ourselves because nobody believes what's truth anymore.
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Even some of my own family members believe this hurricane/weather engineering slop, no matter what I say to them. It’s like they think explosively intensifying hurricanes and violent tornadoes have never happened until now. For as long as this planet has been around there have been extreme storms every now and again, only it doesn’t take a genius to see that the amount of extreme weather events has been increasing in the past few years.

I genuinely cannot believe people would rather think the government can selectively and precisely control a hurricane releasing the equivalent of hundreds of nuclear bombs worth of energy every minute or so, rather than us warming the planet through global carbon emissions. It’s the complete opposite of Occam’s razor. It boggles my brain.
 
ashtonlemleywx said:
Social media has gotten unusable lately. Worst it's ever been. Between the election conspiracies, the government Hurricane conspiracies, and now every aircraft being a "Drone"...the outlook for people like us relaying life saving information to the public during storms is looking grim.

There is going to come a point where we are just chasing for ourselves because nobody believes what's truth anymore.
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One of the worst parts is that government weather conspiracies have now gone worldwide. Head to the comment section on just about any European tornado video and the top voted comments are always along the lines of "it's HAARP manipulating the weather" or "it's not a tornado because my country can't get tornadoes"

One of my favorite comments in that regard is when someone called the Leitrim, Ireland F2 'fairy wind, not a tornado'.
 
slenker said:
Even some of my own family members believe this hurricane/weather engineering slop, no matter what I say to them. It’s like they think explosively intensifying hurricanes and violent tornadoes have never happened until now. For as long as this planet has been around there have been extreme storms every now and again, only it doesn’t take a genius to see that the amount of extreme weather events has been increasing in the past few years.

I genuinely cannot believe people would rather think the government can selectively and precisely control a hurricane releasing the equivalent of hundreds of nuclear bombs worth of energy every minute or so, rather than us warming the planet through global carbon emissions. It’s the complete opposite of Occam’s razor. It boggles my brain.
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Trying to converse with the crazy uncle or cousin is NEVER worth your time; best to just buy them a stale fruitcake for Christmas and hope they don't talk to you.
 
slenker said:
Even some of my own family members believe this hurricane/weather engineering slop, no matter what I say to them. It’s like they think explosively intensifying hurricanes and violent tornadoes have never happened until now. For as long as this planet has been around there have been extreme storms every now and again, only it doesn’t take a genius to see that the amount of extreme weather events has been increasing in the past few years.

I genuinely cannot believe people would rather think the government can selectively and precisely control a hurricane releasing the equivalent of hundreds of nuclear bombs worth of energy every minute or so, rather than us warming the planet through global carbon emissions. It’s the complete opposite of Occam’s razor. It boggles my brain.
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I hear at my local hair salon all the time "I don't remember it being this warm in October or November." or my favorite one thus far: "Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but have you noticed how the sky has changed." All this is from older people by the way. I don't intervene because most don't take the time to listen especially with someone who has a speech impediment and besides I get interrupted a lot.
 
JPWX said:
I hear at my local hair salon all the time "I don't remember it being this warm in October or November." or my favorite one thus far: "Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but have you noticed how the sky has changed." All this is from older people by the way. I don't intervene because most don't take the time to listen especially with someone who has a speech impediment and besides I get interrupted a lot.
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You are right in that most people simply won't listen because they will never admit (no matter what) that they are wrong. I've seen sane commenters CITE THEIR SOURCES (most often meteorological agencies) in response to those "OMG government weather manipulation" and "it's not a tornado" comments, and the idiots being replied to STILL dig their heels in and resort to the baseless "nah your wrong and im right" approach.

It usually goes something like this:

Idiot1: it's not a tornado
SaneCommenter: Yes, it was a confirmed tornado
Idiot1: no it isn't
SaneCommenter: Well, according to Met Eireann there are about 10 tornadoes in Ireland every year, not to mention they rated it F2
Idiot1: it's not a tornado
Idiot2: @SaneCommenter stfu, Idiot1 is right, it's not a tornado
 
Clancy said:
Trying to converse with the crazy uncle or cousin is NEVER worth your time; best to just buy them a stale fruitcake for Christmas and hope they don't talk to you.
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So I'm a historian who writes/teaches about the Holocaust in my day job and I can tell you from an unfortunately extensive amount of experience that there's no point in engaging with conspiracy theorists because you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into. Their beliefs aren't evidence based in the first place, so no amount of facts and evidence is going to convince them otherwise. Don't waste your time/sanity on them.
 
warneagle said:
So I'm a historian who writes/teaches about the Holocaust in my day job and I can tell you from an unfortunately extensive amount of experience that there's no point in engaging with conspiracy theorists because you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into. Their beliefs aren't evidence based in the first place, so no amount of facts and evidence is going to convince them otherwise. Don't waste your time/sanity on them.
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Yeah, that's just how it goes with some people, unfortunately.
JPWX said:
I hear at my local hair salon all the time "I don't remember it being this warm in October or November." or my favorite one thus far: "Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but have you noticed how the sky has changed." All this is from older people by the way. I don't intervene because most don't take the time to listen especially with someone who has a speech impediment and besides I get interrupted a lot.
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"The sky has changed" like what does that even mean? Sunsets aren't real?
 
slenker said:
Even some of my own family members believe this hurricane/weather engineering slop, no matter what I say to them. It’s like they think explosively intensifying hurricanes and violent tornadoes have never happened until now. For as long as this planet has been around there have been extreme storms every now and again, only it doesn’t take a genius to see that the amount of extreme weather events has been increasing in the past few years.

I genuinely cannot believe people would rather think the government can selectively and precisely control a hurricane releasing the equivalent of hundreds of nuclear bombs worth of energy every minute or so, rather than us warming the planet through global carbon emissions. It’s the complete opposite of Occam’s razor. It boggles my brain.
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I mean the hurricane conspiracy stuff comes back to the basic core psychology behind conspiracy theories: the fact that bad things happen randomly for no reason is scary, so it's more comforting to believe that someone is in control, even if it's someone malevolent, rather than accept that nobody is in control and there's nothing we can do about things like this. It's a way of dispelling cognitive dissonance, basically.
 
Clancy said:
"The sky has changed" like what does that even mean? Sunsets aren't real?
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I'm guessing it's chemtrails nonsense, which gets to the other core problem here, the extremely low level of scientific literacy among the general population. It's depressing that people who don't understand very basic things about the world around them decide they know better than real experts and are happy to broadcast their ignorance at the loudest possible volume to anyone who will listen, but it's the world we live in.
 
warneagle said:
I'm guessing it's chemtrails nonsense, which gets to the other core problem here, the extremely low level of scientific literacy among the general population. It's depressing that people who don't understand very basic things about the world around them decide they know better than real experts and are happy to broadcast their ignorance at the loudest possible volume to anyone who will listen, but it's the world we live in.
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Sadly. Genuinely sorry you have to deal with history-deniers as a professional in the field.
 
warneagle said:
I'm guessing it's chemtrails nonsense, which gets to the other core problem here, the extremely low level of scientific literacy among the general population. It's depressing that people who don't understand very basic things about the world around them decide they know better than real experts and are happy to broadcast their ignorance at the loudest possible volume to anyone who will listen, but it's the world we live in.
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Two quotes that describe the state of social media perfectly:

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." -George Carlin
"An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers." -Plato
 
TH2002 said:
One of the worst parts is that government weather conspiracies have now gone worldwide. Head to the comment section on just about any European tornado video and the top voted comments are always along the lines of "it's HAARP manipulating the weather" or "it's not a tornado because my country can't get tornadoes"

One of my favorite comments in that regard is when someone called the Leitrim, Ireland F2 'fairy wind, not a tornado'.
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Someone's been getting into the, ahem...

"Come gaugers all from Donegal, Sligo and Leitrim, too...
Well, we'll give 'em the slip and we'll take a sip of the rare auld Mountain Dew."

 
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