This image was taken by a group that was getting into their storm cellar I believe - IIRC this is where it was slabbing the B&B, where it obliterated two semis and embedded them into the ground. It was after it scoured the ground for sure though.
Be patient, they had a lot to survey and they are taking their time with it. They will probably upload them between tomorrow and Sunday.
Alrighty.
have you seen the video of the marion tornado spin up?
I'm definitely of the opinion that Joplin is more violent than its reputation and have made posts on it before, but there is a bit of an asterisk here IMO. If you look at a larger version of this photo and of the aerial view, you can see it looks like only part of the parking lot was paved over, leaving a thin layer of asphalt with a slightly raised edge. It looks like the wind got under that edge near the marked area here, resulting in most of the new section getting peeled up in big chunks. You can sort of see the progression of how it happened in the aerial view:
Did Joplin cause much ground scouring? I haven’t really seen many images of any noticeable ground scouring from Joplin. Absolutely no shortage of extreme debarking, vehicle damage, wind rowing/granulation, and other incredible phenomena.I'm definitely of the opinion that Joplin is more violent than its reputation and have made posts on it before, but there is a bit of an asterisk here IMO. If you look at a larger version of this photo and of the aerial view, you can see it looks like only part of the parking lot was paved over, leaving a thin layer of asphalt with a slightly raised edge. It looks like the wind got under that edge near the marked area here, resulting in most of the new section getting peeled up in big chunks. You can sort of see the progression of how it happened in the aerial view:
Also worth noting that Pizza By Stout is a bit south of the core - here's the location in relation to the damage path (probably have to open full size to see it well):
I'm of the opinion that scouring is (at least in part) heavily dependent on soil and grass/ground cover. There was no Bridge Creek-esque scouring or anything in Joplin where every blade of grass is torn out in a huge swath, but there were lots of smaller patches throughout the city, especially on slopes and other more exposed surfaces. I can post more later, but the area around (especially north of) the hospital is a good example:
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Ooh, the Tri-State tornado was referred to as a “boiling cloud” and “wall of death” by people who witnessed it! It was likely a Joplin-type tornado, which didn’t look like a tornado and thus people didn’t take shelter.
The modern tornado Tri-State is most commonly compared to in terms of physical appearance is Hackleburg. One particular account from Murphysboro was essentially a 100% match for that one Hackleburg photo with a field of red flowers in the foreground and the chonk wedge in the background.
...? uh ....I just write an article involving my thoughts about the meaning of tornado intensity. Not entirely sure where is the best place to put so I leave it here.Revisiting Tornado Intensity: Insights from Mobile Radar Observations and Vortex Dynamics
In recent years, we have often seen debates regarding tornado ratings and tornado intensity. Some people propose that we can at least reference mobile radar detection opinions to improve ratin…
Eh, at least Hackleburg was recognizable as a tornado. Joplin… not so much.
oh..sadly I have no idea how to use this website...
I believe the problem fixed now. You can check again.
Fantastic read up so far - I have been finding myself somewhat confused on some of the figures due to the lack of captions underneath the majority of them, but I figured them out for the most part on my own. The major discrepancies between the damage from Mulhall and Bridge Creek are really quite fascinating considering the very similar windspeed measurements between the two of them, and also I didn't even think about the fact that debris-loaded tornadoes may lead to the radar underestimating the true peak winds of tornadoes too. I appreciate you going into some detail about the types of radar as well, helps clear some things up about how they work.I just write an article involving my thoughts about the meaning of tornado intensity. Not entirely sure where is the best place to put so I leave it here.Revisiting Tornado Intensity: Insights from Mobile Radar Observations and Vortex Dynamics
In recent years, we have often seen debates regarding tornado ratings and tornado intensity. Some people propose that we can at least reference mobile radar detection opinions to improve ratin…