Severe WX April 4th-6th, 2022 Severe Weather Threat

[Shakespeare 2016]

Absolutely. I have so many questions I don’t have answers to, like why call it the expected value if the lower bound is being used as the expected value instead? Why do surveyors give themselves permission to break the rules by doing things like this, or even going down below the lower bound?

Why is nobody being held accountable for what is essentially “rogue” surveying?

Also do you think most NWS offices don't use the EXP value of 200 mph because it is only 1 mph away from an EF5 and would cause a lot of controversy on social media with people screaming why don't you just rate it EF5? It is only 1 mph away from EF5.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

Like I said it seems NWS offices will usually rate a tornado an EF4 with winds of 190 mph instead of 200 mph to not cause controversy among the public and social media.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

The upper bound was used for this house. https://services.dat.noaa.gov/arcgi...r/FeatureServer/0/2971069/attachments/1827544

https://services.dat.noaa.gov/arcgis/rest/services/nws_damageassessmenttoolkit/DamageViewer/FeatureServer/0/2971069/attachments/1827545

It was a DOD 8 and was given a windspeed of 175 mph.

 

[buckeye05]

So this is the house that lead to the EF3 rating for the Bonaire, GA tornado. Definitely a slider and seems to be lacking anchoring mechanisms of any kind.

 

[SouthFLwx]

So this is the house that lead to the EF3 rating for the Bonaire, GA tornado. Definitely a slider and seems to be lacking anchoring mechanisms of any kind.

Vegetation damage also doesn’t seem to be too intense, the NWS offices did a good job surveying the tornadoes from this event.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

Vegetation damage also doesn’t seem to be too intense, the NWS offices did a good job surveying the tornadoes from this event.

I would say high-end EF2 or low-end EF3. I don't see any anchoring mechanisms either.

 

[Sawmaster]

Like I said it seems NWS offices will usually rate a tornado an EF4 with winds of 190 mph instead of 200 mph to not cause controversy among the public and social media.

Allowing irrelevant factors to influence decisions leads to inaccurate results. Accuracy should be the only goal period; otherwise we can learn nothing from the results.

Phil

 

[tornado examiner]

if the black creek tornado did much more intense contextual damage...more noticable ground scouring...complete debarking of trees...shredding of vehicles. do y'all think it could have got a 200mph EF4 rating....? or potentially....an EF5 rating?

 

[SouthFLwx]

if the black creek tornado did much more intense contextual damage...more noticable ground scouring...complete debarking of trees...shredding of vehicles. do y'all think it could have got a 200mph EF4 rating....? or potentially....an EF5 rating?

It’s possible

 

[buckeye05]

if the black creek tornado did much more intense contextual damage...more noticable ground scouring...complete debarking of trees...shredding of vehicles. do y'all think it could have got a 200mph EF4 rating....? or potentially....an EF5 rating?

With enough extreme contextual damage, yes. Those houses looked pretty well-built imo.