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Significant Tornado Events

Also Joplin is another good tornado to discuss preparedness with, given how most didnt even take shelter from it due to the thought it was another false alarm.
For sheltering I was thinking of bringing up Joplin and Vilonia, with the latter specifically being about the one storm shelter that fatally failed due to it not meeting construction standards. Lesson being: make sure your preparedness kits and shelter plans still work.
 
As funny as getting middle schoolers hooked on why John Robinson is a terrible surveyor is (lmao), I'm aiming to pivot it more into the effects on aviation, as that's what the overarching class will be about. I will be bringing up Matador though because that one is very obviously higher than an EF3 just by looking at an image or two.
Speaking of John Robinson, does anyone know what he’s up to nowadays? LZK has gotten significantly more thorough and detail oriented with their surveys ever since he left.
 
The dashed lines indicate “funnel aloft” per Fujita’s map. I think you nailed it.
We now know enough though, to know that tornadoes don't actually 'touch down' even though the funnel cloud appears to do so. But it appears to me that there was uncertainty in the path endpoints.

Fujita must have left more notes on the outbreak than those that TTU has uploaded (which I believe are only a portion). If so, they may contain data ready for fresh interpretations.
 
Hope nobody minds me asking:

In April I'm doing a presentation in front of middle-school students about tornadoes and the human/aviation impact they leave behind. I need four photos of particularly extreme damage, each preferably unique, showing extreme damage to a home, a vehicle, a plane, and scouring. Does anybody have any good images that might be of use? My first thought is Matador for the vehicle damage, but I really can't decide.
For vehicle damage, I consider the 'poster children' to be Pearsall, TX 4/15/1973, Bridge Creek 1999, Joplin 2011 and Stanton 6/16/2014. El Reno 2013 would be another good one to use considering all eight of its fatalities were in vehicles...

Regarding damage to aviation infrastructure, you're not gonna find better examples than Windsor Locks 1979, NLM CityHopper Flight 431, and Robinson-Sullivan 2023. St. Louis 2011 is another honorable mention, though it was only at EF2 intensity when it hit Lambert Airport.

For scouring, my poster child would be Bridge Creek, though Smithville is up there too. For 'trenching', it'd obviously have to be Philadelphia 4/27.

For homes... Jarrell, Joplin, Parkersburg, Harper 2004 and El Reno 2011 are up there.

edit: added Harper and corrected typo
 
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Recently I've become super fascinated with the Joplin tornado, mainly figuring out why so many people died, and in my head I've come to the conclusion, that there simply will never, ever be another tornado like the 2011 Joplin tornado. It was unfortunately the perfect scenario to have over 150 deaths, even in an era where the warning system had grown so much in the past 20+ years leading up to Joplin.

These were the factors that led to the amount of deaths that Joplin had:
  • You had a tornado that went from nothing, to wedge in legit less than 10 seconds, so it wasted no time in causing devastating damage. Not to mention, it was also obscured in rain, so nobody could see it.
  • Joplin was one of the leading cities in the US in Tornado Warning false alarms leading up to 2011, so the "cry wolf" mentality was at an all time high.
  • There had already been a Tornado Warning an hour earlier that was a false alarm.
  • It was one of the busiest times in the afternoon where people were coming home from graduation ceremonies, people were shopping and altogether just out and about.
  • The tornado hit through the most populated areas of the city.
All these combined (and I'm sure more factors), and you have a recipe for deaths of over 150+. Some might argue, that it's surprising that there weren't more.

I also came across one of the most eerie tornado videos from Joplin in my time of looking more into this event.

There will never, ever be another tornado like Joplin 2011.
 
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Recently I've become super fascinated with the Joplin tornado, mainly figuring out why so many people died, and in my head I've come to the conclusion, that there simply will never, ever be another tornado like the 2011 Joplin tornado. It was unfortunately the perfect scenario to have over 150 deaths, even in an era where the warning system had grown so much in the past 20+ years leading up to Joplin.

These were the factors that led to the amount of deaths that Joplin had:
  • You had a tornado that went from nothing, to wedge in legit less than 10 seconds, so it wasted no time in causing devastating damage. Not to mention, it was also obscured in rain, so nobody could see it.
  • Joplin was one of the leading cities in the US in Tornado Warning false alarms leading up to 2011, so the "cry wolf" mentality was at an all time high.
  • There had already been a Tornado Warning an hour earlier that was a false alarm.
  • It was one of the busiest times in the afternoon where people were coming home from graduation ceremonies, people were shopping and altogether just out and about.
  • The tornado hit through the most populated areas of the city.
All these combined (and I'm sure more factors), and you have a recipe for deaths of over 150+. Some might argue, that it's surprising that there weren't more.

I also came across one of the most eerie tornado videos from Joplin in my time of looking more into this event.

There will never, ever be another tornado like Joplin 2011.
I heard death toll was actually over 300. Due to immigrants not counted ? Just saw that somewhere
 
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This photo is actually from the April 29th, 2017 Canton, Texas EF3
 
Hope nobody minds me asking:

In April I'm doing a presentation in front of middle-school students about tornadoes and the human/aviation impact they leave behind. I need four photos of particularly extreme damage, each preferably unique, showing extreme damage to a home, a vehicle, a plane, and scouring. Does anybody have any good images that might be of use? My first thought is Matador for the vehicle damage, but I really can't decide.
I think showing a before and after example of what an upper-echelon tornado can do to a neighborhood would be a good idea. Here’s two examples from Moore ‘13, along with a destroyed vehicle.
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