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Based on photographs number thirty-two through thirty-four, the 12 Apr 1943 Hackleburg AL F4 tornado was clearly a high-end event. All three images show extreme granulation, or rather pulverisation, of debris in the foreground. The tornado occurred around 2:30 a.m. EDT, so the official death toll of four was remarkably low, in light of the tornado’s evident intensity. I think the 1943 tornado was clearly capable of high-end F4 or even F5 damage as it passed through Hackleburg.

Actually, I think Guin was likely the strongest of the outbreak, given its extreme DIs relative to its faster forward speed (I would put Brandenburg in second place).

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This image from Guin shows extreme granulation of debris as well as scouring of a lawn down to bare soil (compare the dirt in foreground to grass in background).

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The massive amount of pulverised debris in Guin is typical of very high-end tornadoes.

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More from Guin: note the extreme ground scouring (greyish-brownish streak) through the very centre of the image, compared to green grass on either side.

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Another view of Guin: note the Smithville MS-like “swirl” of convergent trees right of centre toward the upper edge of the photograph, indicating total levelling.

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Last image from Guin: a mature tree not only totally debarked, but also stubbed, with possible (likely?) ground scouring in the foreground vs. background left.

By comparison, nevertheless, this image from Brandenburg shows extreme granulation and debarking of low-lying shrubbery, so Brandenburg was high-end as well:

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As an aside, this image from the 6 May 1965 Centerville MN F4 shows extreme wind-rowing and scouring suggestive of possible F5 intensity, like Andover KS:

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Extreme scouring from Lawrenceburg TN on 16 Apr 1998, comparable to that of the (likely or official) EF5s on 27 Apr 2011:

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The problem with Guin is there still isn't a whole lot of clear photographs available of its damage; I've no doubt it was a high-end F5 and there's around a dozen or so photos of damage that look like pretty clear indicators of a violent tornado but the paucity of high-quality photographs and detailed surveys of its damage (Grazulis paints it to be among the most violent tornadoes of all time) Brandenburg is a reasonable contender for being the most violent tornado with clear and documented evidence of its ferocity from 4/3/74 (there's tons of clear damage photographs available from it). I hope by 2024 we get a massive photo dump from Guin but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

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One tornado from 5/31/1985 I've always been confused about is the Watsontown PA tornado. Its rating is pretty inconsistent with it ranging from F2 to F4 depending on the source.
That's funny, I'm actually just finishing up that portion of my article. It's officially an F3 but Grazulis rated it F4, which is what I have it rated on my map. Most of the worst damage occurred north and east of Elimsport, where several frame homes and similar buildings were blown away. Vehicles were thrown up to a few hundred yards and crushed, farm machinery was torn apart, etc. Two of the fatalities occurred in this area and the victims were both thrown hundreds of yards.

It actually maxed out at right around 1.5 miles wide as it neared the Susquehanna River, but it's kinda weird. Based on several eyewitness accounts + the overall damage patterns, it sounds like it was a multivortex tornado, but the individual vortices themselves were quite large. Another area of intense damage occurred along the east bank of the river, where a farm was apparently obliterated and a cow was thrown more than half a mile back across the river in the opposite direction of the tornado's movement (which seems weird, but multiple people attested to it so.. ?). I've talked to the guy who owned the farm but haven't been able to dig up any good photos of it.

Outside of that, most of the significant damage and the rest of the fatalities occurred in trailer parks. It doesn't seem to have been high-end violent like some of the outbreak's other tornadoes, but I think F4 is probably appropriate.
 

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That's funny, I'm actually just finishing up that portion of my article. It's officially an F3 but Grazulis rated it F4, which is what I have it rated on my map. Most of the worst damage occurred north and east of Elimsport, where several frame homes and similar buildings were blown away. Vehicles were thrown up to a few hundred yards and crushed, farm machinery was torn apart, etc. Two of the fatalities occurred in this area and the victims were both thrown hundreds of yards.

It actually maxed out at right around 1.5 miles wide as it neared the Susquehanna River, but it's kinda weird. Based on several eyewitness accounts + the overall damage patterns, it sounds like it was a multivortex tornado, but the individual vortices themselves were quite large. Another area of intense damage occurred along the east bank of the river, where a farm was apparently obliterated and a cow was thrown more than half a mile back across the river in the opposite direction of the tornado's movement (which seems weird, but multiple people attested to it so.. ?). I've talked to the guy who owned the farm but haven't been able to dig up any good photos of it.

Outside of that, most of the significant damage and the rest of the fatalities occurred in trailer parks. It doesn't seem to have been high-end violent like some of the outbreak's other tornadoes, but I think F4 is probably appropriate.
Are there any photos of this supposed violent damage?
 

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Are there any photos of this supposed violent damage?
Still a work in progress, but I've got a few. As an example, here's a before/after of the grange hall in Elimsport (basically like a community hall sort of thing):

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I'm not sure it was a particularly well-built structure, but it was totally blown away, as were several homes in this area. In the background of the third photo you can see what remained of the frame home where one of the fatalities occurred; the woman was blown ~200 yards and killed, and her car was thrown more like 300 yards or so. It sounds like there may have been some ground scouring in the area as well but I haven't seen anything definitive yet. A half-mile or so from this area, three school buses were also thrown/rolled/bounced across a field but weren't destroyed like you might expect to see in a really high-end tornado.

The home at left here was "blown away" as well, but from what little we can see I'm guessing it wasn't anchored well, if at all. The slab at center there is apparently part of the front porch stoop. The tree/shrubs clearly didn't suffer too much, though, and from what I can tell this area was a bit south of where the worst damage occurred.

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Extreme planet has released photos of the destruction of the Hudson Ville tornado in 1956. According to some pictures, the storm is very similar to the Henry Ville tornado in 2012. It is obviously one of the most violent tornadoes in history. It caused one of the most impressive vehicle damage at that time, and the house damage and scouring were also very strong. Many fast tornadoes are usually difficult to cause severe vehicle damage and scouring, but Hudson Ville is obviously an exceptionScreenshot_2022_0106_075347.pngef5-tornado-damage-grand-rapids-michigan.pngScreenshot_2022_0106_074837.pngScreenshot_2022_0106_071118.pngScreenshot_2022_0106_071056.pngScreenshot_2022_0106_070853.pngScreenshot_2022_0106_071434.png
 

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I was curious did we have an analog for the Mayfield/quad-state tornado besides 1925 Tri-State tornado? The actual answer is yes! The Atkins-Clinton-Highland AR EF4 in Super Tuesday outbreak could be a good match. This tornado covered an 122mi continuous path in central AR in early February, which is exceptionally rare if you take the path length, its strength along with its sustainability into consideration, and for the most important, it’s February! The climatology of average tornado numbers in February is a little bit less than in December. 120mi+path lengths in modern history(after 1970s)is extremely rare, I can only recall 2011 Hackleburg EF5, 2010 Yazoo city EF4, 2011 Enterprise EF4 besides Clinton and the 12/10 outbreak. What put the Mayfield and Clinton together was that they were the only two which stayed EF3+ for most of its lifespan, while such a tornado was highly ignored.
The tornado began 2 mi SW of Neely AR. Crossing into Atkins AR, the tornado intensified dramatically into a mid EF4, completely demolished multiple houses(not sure about the anchoring), collasped brick outbuildings and debarked hardwood trees.
Tornado entering Atkins AR
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Damage in Atkins AR.
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Maintaining mid to high-end EF4 strength, this tornado now moved into Russellville AR, crossing the Arkansas River for the second time.Witness reported the tornado sucked the water up and then poured it down when it went onshore
“It sucked up water as it crossed,” she said the man told her. “When it hit land, it let all the water out.”
Continuing steady NE, it maintained EF3-EF4 strength as it moved into Hattieville, The tornado not only threw mutiple cars on I-40 and lead to 5 fatalities, but also scoured the Interstate and threw the asphalt long distance at passing vehicles.
"Atkins Mayor Rowdy Sweet was a captain with the Pope County Sheriff’s Office in 2008 and was called to assist a truck driver who lost control of his rig when the tornado scoured off a large chunk of asphalt and threw it through his truck window."
Moving into Van Buren co, the tornado intensified even further into mid to high end EF4, demolishing numerous chicken houses and well-built facilities.
Tornado in Cleveland AR
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Tornado in Clinton AR. This was the last place we can get to find images of the tornado itself.
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Damage in Clinton AR with forests severely debarked and a boat manufacturing Plant completely leveled.Cars parked outside the Plant were either thrown or mangled, just like what we saw in Mayfield Candle Factory. FR12 around that plant was completely leveled with debris granulated long distance.
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I was curious did we have an analog for the Mayfield/quad-state tornado besides 1925 Tri-State tornado? The actual answer is yes! The Atkins-Clinton-Highland AR EF4 in Super Tuesday outbreak could be a good match. This tornado covered an 122mi continuous path in central AR in early February, which is exceptionally rare if you take the path length, its strength along with its sustainability into consideration, and for the most important, it’s February! The climatology of average tornado numbers in February is a little bit less than in December. 120mi+path lengths in modern history(after 1970s)is extremely rare, I can only recall 2011 Hackleburg EF5, 2010 Yazoo city EF4, 2011 Enterprise EF4 besides Clinton and the 12/10 outbreak. What put the Mayfield and Clinton together was that they were the only two which stayed EF3+ for most of its lifespan, while such a tornado was highly ignored.
The tornado began 2 mi SW of Neely AR. Crossing into Atkins AR, the tornado intensified dramatically into a mid EF4, completely demolished multiple houses(not sure about the anchoring), collasped brick outbuildings and debarked hardwood trees.
Tornado entering Atkins AR
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Damage in Atkins AR.
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Maintaining mid to high-end EF4 strength, this tornado now moved into Russellville AR, crossing the Arkansas River for the second time.Witness reported the tornado sucked the water up and then poured it down when it went onshore
“It sucked up water as it crossed,” she said the man told her. “When it hit land, it let all the water out.”
Continuing steady NE, it maintained EF3-EF4 strength as it moved into Hattieville, The tornado not only threw mutiple cars on I-40 and lead to 5 fatalities, but also scoured the Interstate and threw the asphalt long distance at passing vehicles.
"Atkins Mayor Rowdy Sweet was a captain with the Pope County Sheriff’s Office in 2008 and was called to assist a truck driver who lost control of his rig when the tornado scoured off a large chunk of asphalt and threw it through his truck window."
Moving into Van Buren co, the tornado intensified even further into mid to high end EF4, demolishing numerous chicken houses and well-built facilities.
Tornado in Cleveland AR
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Tornado in Clinton AR. This was the last place we can get to find images of the tornado itself.
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Damage in Clinton AR with forests severely debarked and a boat manufacturing Plant completely leveled.Cars parked outside the Plant were either thrown or mangled, just like what we saw in Mayfield Candle Factory. FR12 around that plant was completely leveled with debris granulated long distance.
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Dozens of houses in Clinton got completely swept away with some kinda apartment severely damaged and lost its second floor.
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Mangled cars in Boat Manufacturing Plant
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Tombs were gone in cemetery
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Passing Clinton, the tornado still maintained EF4 strength, climbed and dived into the mountainous area in Central AR and went directly into the small town Mountain view
A Hummer were thrown over half a mile into the field.
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A dentist office was completely destroyed with cars shattered by debris and trees debarked.
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The tornado might have reached its peak intensity just moments after it passed Mountain View near Zion AR.Potential EF5-level of damage was found right here as a well-anchored house was completely swept away, debris scattered all around the nearby field.Two big oak trees on this property was severely debarked only left the tree trunk standing, some kind of vehicles pieces wrapped around the debarked trees.A tractor was thrown for long distance as well.
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Dozens of houses in Clinton got completely swept away with some kinda apartment severely damaged and lost its second floor.
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Passing Clinton, the tornado still maintained EF4 strength, climbed and dived into the mountainous area in Central AR and went directly into the small town Mountain view
A Hummer were thrown over half a mile into the field.
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A dentist office was completely destroyed with cars shattered by debris and trees debarked.
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The tornado might have reached its peak intensity just moments after it passed Mountain View near Zion AR.Potential EF5-level of damage was found right here as a well-anchored house was completely swept away, debris scattered all around the nearby field.Two big oak trees on this property was severely debarked only left the tree trunk standing, some kind of vehicles pieces wrapped around the debarked trees.A tractor was thrown for long distance as well.
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Some semi-truck or tractor-trailer frame wrapped around trees.
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Vehicle thrown into the woods in downtown Mountain view AR
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Contextual damage around the dentist's office mentioned above.
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Completely leveled houses and debarked trees in Zion AR.
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An anchored garage next to a leveled FR12 only left the clean bare slab when the tornado passed, some brick were thrown and wind rowed with grassed near the foundation of the garage.A mattress tangled around a debarked tree nearby.
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Severe damage in Mountain view AR
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A license plate was driven into a tree
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The last EF4-level damage I can find is the famous 5-ton Jeep which was bent vertically and driven into a tree in NE of Zion AR
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Yes, the Arkansas tornado from Super Tuesday 2008 was a very impressive tornado. Like Vilonia, it probably should have been rated EF5 although unlike that tornado, as far as I know it didn't actually do EF5 home damage* that was then deliberately underrated.

*If you concede that EF5 home damage is equivalent to F5 damage on the old scale when applied to a well-built, anchor bolted house, and not some mythical unicorn that doesn't actually exist.
 
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Extreme planet has released photos of the destruction of the Hudson Ville tornado in 1956. According to some pictures, the storm is very similar to the Henry Ville tornado in 2012. It is obviously one of the most violent tornadoes in history. It caused one of the most impressive vehicle damage at that time, and the house damage and scouring were also very strong. Many fast tornadoes are usually difficult to cause severe vehicle damage and scouring, but Hudson Ville is obviously an exception
That outbreak was phenomenally well-documented for the time, especially Hudsonville-Standale. Even more so than Palm Sunday, which is kinda weird. Some day I'd like to do some more digging on the Lexington, TN and Miami, OK F4s though. The Miami tornado was actually a tri-stater (OK-KS-MO) that tracked for ~40 miles and may have been well over a mile wide at times. IIRC the violent damage was mostly east of Miami and near Quapaw in OK, but it also did pretty significant damage near Baxter Springs, KS and then west of Joplin and Webb City.
 

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That outbreak was phenomenally well-documented for the time, especially Hudsonville-Standale. Even more so than Palm Sunday, which is kinda weird. Some day I'd like to do some more digging on the Lexington, TN and Miami, OK F4s though. The Miami tornado was actually a tri-stater (OK-KS-MO) that tracked for ~40 miles and may have been well over a mile wide at times. IIRC the violent damage was mostly east of Miami and near Quapaw in OK, but it also did pretty significant damage near Baxter Springs, KS and then west of Joplin and Webb City.
Someone from NWS Grand Rapids did a reanalysis of the outbreak.
https://ejssm.org/archives/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/vol3-1.pdf
 
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That outbreak was phenomenally well-documented for the time, especially Hudsonville-Standale. Even more so than Palm Sunday, which is kinda weird. Some day I'd like to do some more digging on the Lexington, TN and Miami, OK F4s though. The Miami tornado was actually a tri-stater (OK-KS-MO) that tracked for ~40 miles and may have been well over a mile wide at times. IIRC the violent damage was mostly east of Miami and near Quapaw in OK, but it also did pretty significant damage near Baxter Springs, KS and then west of Joplin and Webb City.

That area (KS/OK/MO intersection) seems like it might be one of those localized hotspots, as they seem to get hit frequently with significant tornadoes. Picher 2008, Joplin, Quapaw/Baxter Springs 2014.
 

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That area (KS/OK/MO intersection) seems like it might be one of those localized hotspots, as they seem to get hit frequently with significant tornadoes. Picher 2008, Joplin, Quapaw/Baxter Springs 2014.
I believe there were at least two violent tornadoes in that area in the 1910s as well. The Columbus, KS F4 on 3/30/1938 struck the same general area too.
 

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Someone from NWS Grand Rapids did a reanalysis of the outbreak.
https://ejssm.org/archives/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/vol3-1.pdf
When discussing the tornado, I remember Eric's blog once listed it as one of the candidates for potential F5. I also want to find the damage photos of the tornado, but I haven't found anything yet.
I agree with you very much. I saw in a paper that the jet of this outbreak was about 130kt. This outbreak is absolutely eye-catching.
Holland F4 before Hudsonville also attracted attention. It flattened some houses and led to the collapse of a historic lighthouse. This is a damaged photo I found, but I think you already know下载 (22).jpeg
 

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The 2018 Alonsa tornado is notable for being the only officially rated EF4 of 2018 and the first tornado in Canada to be given an EF4+ on the EF-scale. What got it an EF4 rating was an anchored home that was completely swept away. What likely prevented it from getting a higher rating was the contextual damage next to the house.
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Speaking recent decent tornado in Saudi Arabia. Here was one in 2000. There was so many similarity of this one to some classic Plain's tornados!

Ok I am beyond fascinated now. What is with all these huge, strong/violent looking stovepipes in Saudi Arabia?? That is clearly a very significant, supercell-spawned tornado. I don’t know if any other desert region that experiences this type of tornadic phenomenon. What is different about that country that causes this to happen?
 
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