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Severe WX April 11th-13th, 2020 Severe Weather Threat

SPC notes a lot of uncertainty in their discussion. Seems to think this is very conditional. I agree:


Forecast Discussion
SPC AC 111735

Day 2 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1235 PM CDT Sat Apr 11 2020

Valid 121200Z - 131200Z

...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM NORTHERN
LOUISIANA THROUGH SOUTHEAST ARKANSAS...MISSISSIPPI INTO CENTRAL AND
NORTHERN ALABAMA

Farther south, moderate to locally strong instability is forecast to
develop along/south of the warm frontal position, which will be
modulated by the impact of outflow from any early convection
described above. Midlevel flow will increase to 70-100 kt as a
south-southwesterly low-level jet intensifies into the 40-60 kt
range. These wind profiles combined with ample instability (MLCAPE
of 1500-3000 J/kg) will support the potential for intense
supercells. Any surface-based initiation along and east of a
pseudo-dryline moving into western LA by late afternoon could evolve
into one or more long-tracked supercells capable of producing strong
tornadoes, large hail, and damaging wind gusts. The extent of
development within the warm sector remains somewhat uncertain, given
the presence of a capping inversion and generally subtle foci for
initiation.

While the conditional risk of all severe hazards will be quite high
if supercells develop, uncertainty remains regarding how convection
will evolve from the morning into the afternoon. Any remnant outflow
related to early convection will determine the northern extent of
the higher-end tornado potential, and some guidance suggests the
potential for elevated convection within a midlevel moist plume
across the warm sector during the afternoon, which could either
dampen the severe potential, or evolve into surface-based convection
with a substantial severe threat. Given these factors, there is too
much uncertainty to upgrade the ongoing outlook at this time.
 
New Day 2. Moderate risk pulled eastward.

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Tornado Probabilities:

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Focus on how you’re going to receive warnings, where you will take shelter and get the word out to those that don’t pay attention!
 
I can't access the model sites right now but the SPC is talking like models have trended down a lot. Is this the case?
I don't think they are saying that. I think they are just saying that there is uncertainty right now, which has kept them from going to a high risk as of right now. In fact, they pulled the moderate risk a little further east, which I don't think they would do if they thought things were trending down.
 
Yesterday at this time it was 56degrees with a 54 dew point. Now it is 73 degrees with a dew point of 66 and rising. It was 61 degrees and 57 dew point at 9 am. Just wanted to relay how fast the warm air is returning with this system. Our critical time is supposed to be between 1 and 7 am.
 
I can't access the model sites right now but the SPC is talking like models have trended down a lot. Is this the case?

Well SPC states that there could be some junk convection in the warm sector that could dampen this event and the severity of it. We have seen that on the cams. On top of that there is very little forcing to break the cap so this may end up being a day where you have some convection during the day with a strong squall line ( im old school and like that term) at night. The squall line would have the potential of all modes of severe wx however if this happens there is no way a high risk would verify hence no upgrade. Honestly i was shocked they extended the moderate risk given that right now we just dont know whats going to happen in the warm sector. The potential is there for significant severe wx or a HUGE Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency.
 
Well SPC states that there could be some junk convection in the warm sector that could dampen this event and the severity of it. We have seen that on the cams. On top of that there is very little forcing to break the cap so this may end up being a day where you have some convection during the day with a strong squall line ( im old school and like that term) at night. The squall line would have the potential of all modes of severe wx however if this happens there is no way a high risk would verify hence no upgrade. Honestly i was shocked they extended the moderate risk given that right now we just dont know whats going to happen in the warm sector. The potential is there for significant severe wx or a HUGE Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency.
Trust me, there is plenty enough forcing for convection across the warm sector as it pivots negative tilt in the afternoon...and that’s not a concern mentioned at all unless I missed it in the SPC discussion. The question the SPC explicitly states is when/where the elevated morning complex become surface based with the 60-70 kt LLJ begins bringing in higher dews and we get surface destabilization. They are trying to resolve where that southern edge from the morning complex of storms races across TN/MS/AL as that will determine the extent of the warm sector.

Calling potential Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency a day out might be a new record.
 
Yesterday at this time it was 56degrees with a 54 dew point. Now it is 73 degrees with a dew point of 66 and rising. It was 61 degrees and 57 dew point at 9 am. Just wanted to relay how fast the warm air is returning with this system. Our critical time is supposed to be between 1 and 7 am.
Right now the dewpoint in Bham is 34. The highest dp in central AL is just 41. Yes, I know that the warm front comes thru tonight, but the of-needed 80 deg his, not just the 70 dps, are S of a line from Demopolis to Auburn. And the best dynamics are N of that line. Right now, I'm skeptical, and will go with a squall line like type of event. Feel free to disagree though.
 
Right now the dewpoint in Bham is 34. The highest dp in central AL is just 41. Yes, I know that the warm front comes thru tonight, but the of-needed 80 deg his, not just the 70 dps, are S of a line from Demopolis to Auburn. And the best dynamics are N of that line. Right now, I'm skeptical, and will go with a squall line like type of event. Feel free to disagree though.
I disagree because temperature and dew point have NOTHING to do with storm mode.
 
Right now the dewpoint in Bham is 34. The highest dp in central AL is just 41. Yes, I know that the warm front comes thru tonight, but the of-needed 80 deg his, not just the 70 dps, are S of a line from Demopolis to Auburn. And the best dynamics are N of that line. Right now, I'm skeptical, and will go with a squall line like type of event. Feel free to disagree though.
Taking the current DPs/Temps and saying "the models are wrong about what's going to happen because of what's happening now" still a full day out just seems irresponsible. We won't know much from surface obs until at least tomorrow morning as it'll give us a better idea of which models are handling this event better.
 
Well SPC states that there could be some junk convection in the warm sector that could dampen this event and the severity of it. We have seen that on the cams. On top of that there is very little forcing to break the cap so this may end up being a day where you have some convection during the day with a strong squall line ( im old school and like that term) at night. The squall line would have the potential of all modes of severe wx however if this happens there is no way a high risk would verify hence no upgrade. Honestly i was shocked they extended the moderate risk given that right now we just dont know whats going to happen in the warm sector. The potential is there for significant severe wx or a HUGE Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency.
I agree. I'm also thinking we may see a major Forecasted Convective Amplification Deficiency on this one unless something big changes with that warm sector.
 
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