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Firefighter dies responding to tornado damage
Officials wrote in the post, “This is a heartbreaking reminder of the dangers our first responders face every day and the incredible bravery they show in the face of disaster.”
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10 in critical conditionLower numbers then originally but still…
Would be much worse if that trailer park was also it..10 in critical condition
Quick pet peeve of mine, but I don’t like when media refers to <EF4 tornadoes as “violent”. It’s 100% a useless thing to get mad over though lol
I feel yaQuick pet peeve of mine, but I don’t like when media refers to <EF4 tornadoes as “violent”. It’s 100% a useless thing to get mad over lol
Violent tornadoes are very rare so it bugs me also..Quick pet peeve of mine, but I don’t like when media refers to <EF4 tornadoes as “violent”. It’s 100% a useless thing to get mad over though lol
If I hadn’t known better I’d say this image was taken on April 28, 2011. Wow.Damage from London tornado, definitely ef4 contextuals at least.
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I recommend an air of detachment towards tornado ratings at this point. Although I actually agree with some of your points, and value the fact that you at least stimulate discussions (let us always be charitable towards each other so long as posts are in good faith and not plainly stupid), the fact is that the prior (late 20th century) formula (extreme context* + ONE destroyed house of reasonably good construction) is not here today. For over 20 years we haveI will say, looking closer at these posts, this is definitely one of the stronger EF5 candidates we've had in quite a while, so maybe I'll save the skepticism until after the surveys are done. I'll have to find some of @Sawmaster's old posts in the EF thread, and repost them there, because he made some really strong points about how a lot of older houses are actually quite a bit sturdier than most newer houses.
I agree with everything here. Secondly, here you have partial debarking, stabbed houses at least one of which was swept clean, little apparent granulation but some windrowing - to me this is essentially textbook "F4." I will be disappointed if they rate otherwise regardless of construction quality. I struggle to see this as anything other than EF4.You're definitely right. Good analysis. I pulled all the most extreme damage pics from the drone video shared in here, and it doesn't appear any of the houses are anchored. Still some impressive damage nonetheless, and worthy of an EF4 rating (maybe even high end). homes completely blown away deserve more respect from surveyors than they get currently, regardless of anchoring. It requires very violent winds to do this.
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Here's an analysis I found on Twitter
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It does appear there might be one EF5 candidate (per @vemir 's post) in the rural area @ColdFront was talking about earlier.
I think the truth is is that even a TOR-E wouldn't have helped, nocturnal tornadoes are basically impossible to react to correctly.View attachment 42146
I won't talk about the whole politics crap too much (because it sucks and nobody gets along), but I will say that the NWS Jackson office was fully staffed last night. That wasn't a problem this time around.
It’s on DAT now and oh boy… that thing literally couldn’t have dropped at a worse time. Huge swath of north St. Louis covered.The one that was in downtown? I had no idea it was that wide.
Yeah I can’t believe that happened.. first time since 1959 fatalities in city limits. Unreal. 5000 buildings affected. Thank God it was short lived.It’s on DAT now and oh boy… that thing literally couldn’t have dropped at a worse time. Huge swath of north St. Louis covered.
Missouri leads the way for ef3 this year pretty sure. 2 more to the tally.Yeah I can’t believe that happened.. first time since 1959 fatalities in city limits. Unreal. 5000 buildings affected. Thank God it was short lived.