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Severe WX April 1-2 (overnight) Severe Weather Event

Western_KS_Wx said:
That extent of damage to such forested areas is very seldom seen. As if the video of extreme motion wasn’t enough, that level of vegetation damage leads me to believe this was an EF5 strength tornado. Curious to see other areas along the path.
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That is high end, might be enough to push EF4 for tree damage here.
 
jiharris0220 said:
I’m gonna play devils advocate here, this damage looks like it would barely pass as ef4.

The “debarking” here is actually just the result of the trunks/branches being torn off, exposing the bark underneath.

You can tell because the areas where the branches/trunks haven’t been torn off there’s no debarking to be seen.

I’m also seeing quite a bit of shrubbery on the forest floor that still have all of their foliage still intact.
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I don't post often here but just wanted to say I agree with you on that one. These strong hardwood trees (oaks here?) don't snap "clean" like pine or other softwood / weaker hardwood trees; they will bend until the fibers gradually give, chunk by chunk, leaving this messy look behind. But it's not debarked - so far I've only seen a few instances of minor debarking (not sure which tornado though) from the pictures of last night's storms. I was thinking low-end EF4 based on the other damage seen (mangled vehicles particularly), but I'm just an armchair weather enthusiast far removed from all of this.

Gotta admit though that the visual presentation of the Lake View tornado from the live streams yesterday was one of the most incredible I've ever seen. It's up there with the infamous ones like Tuscaloosa, Bridge Creek '99 and Moore '13 for sure.
 
Kds86z said:
Good job! Lmao @Atlantic
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I was asleep during the main part of this event, and when left yesterday there was about 75-80 pages. I wake up this morning to look and it just like BOOM, 160 pages. I was just like dang. I can't believe we had two very violent tornadoes overnight.

2025 really has a few skifters up its sleeve (Please tell me someone gets the reference)
 
AJS said:
As someone who wants to work for the NWS, seeing these people get cut from their job that they have worked so hard for makes me upset.
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Most of these places are understaffed to begin with. Eliminating people in positions that will save lives instead of giving them more resources to do their job is not going to end well for anyone.
 
andyhb said:


Hope y'all are ready for more missed surveys because of Trump and co's bullsh*t.
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No need to censor the word “bullshit”, Andy! LOL

Anyhow, these recent staffing cuts at the NWS are certainly not giving me confidence that WFO’s who already have a reputation for poor damage surveys are going to step up their game any time soon.
 
TH2002 said:
No need to censor the word “bullshit”, Andy! LOL

Anyhow, these recent staffing cuts at the NWS are certainly not giving me confidence that WFO’s who already have a reputation for poor damage surveys are going to step up their game any time soon.
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Improving damage surveys is the least of my concerns here, this is about even having them at all.
 
andyhb said:
Improving damage surveys is the least of my concerns here, this is about even having them at all.
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Okay, some serious questions…

1. What impact do you think the recent staffing cuts could have on warning issuance and dissemination?

2. Imagine a scenario where we literally get thrown back to the pre-1970 era of tornado damage analysis, where ground surveys basically did not exist - would you say the risk is very real that this could happen across the country?
 
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