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Severe WX Severe Weather Threat 3/14-3/16

AJS said:
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Reddit cracks me up lol.

This is legitimately what someone said about the Diaz, Arkansas tornado.

I don’t even wanna know what’s being said on twitter rn.
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When was the 1976 super outbreak? Don't remember that one.

I'm also surprised that out of all the official F5/EF5's he brings up Lubbock...
 
tornado examiner said:
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Was gonna come here and forward this but you beat me to it! I 100% agree with the rating, I think it’s borderline but high-end EF4 was absolutely the right call here. Initially I thought the thing had a legitimate shot at an EF5 rating, but the more detail I noticed in that ground video and the aerial photo the evidence was a little too damning to side with an EF5 rating there. Firstly the large amount of debris on the foundation was going to be a swaying factor, it wasn’t as clean of a sweep as you’d typically see in a true EF5 tornado. A handful of the trees very nearby the house still had most of their branches including the smaller twigs intact, and there wasn’t any clear debarking immediately near the residence. The small plants is really what got me. I have no idea how those didn’t get blown away (or even knocked over) and was curious if they were placed there afterwards, but the aerial and ground footage that morning indicates they were there during the tornado. Good call by the NWS in this case.
 
Western_KS_Wx said:
Was gonna come here and forward this but you beat me to it! I 100% agree with the rating, I think it’s borderline but high-end EF4 was absolutely the right call here. Initially I thought the thing had a legitimate shot at an EF5 rating, but the more detail I noticed in that ground video and the aerial photo the evidence was a little too damning to side with an EF5 rating there. Firstly the large amount of debris on the foundation was going to be a swaying factor, it wasn’t as clean of a sweep as you’d typically see in a true EF5 tornado. A handful of the trees very nearby the house still had most of their branches including the smaller twigs intact, and there wasn’t any clear debarking immediately near the residence. The small plants is really what got me. I have no idea how those didn’t get blown away (or even knocked over) and was curious if they were placed there afterwards, but the aerial and ground footage that morning indicates they were there during the tornado. Good call by the NWS in this case.
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Do we have a different angle from the south on this that isn’t blurred?
The tornado was a very narrow funnel that passed on the north side of the house. Likely with a very tight damage gradient. That one tree tipped over likely experienced a brief burst of inflow that was surging in past the potted plants.
IMO the only thing the precludes an EF5 rating is the not total sweeping and minor structural flaws. Not the contextuals on the south side of the home. Cause as you can see starting in the direct funnel path the tree’s were being snapped off at nearly ground level. Also the one that was thrown from who know’s where onto the foundation itself.
 

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IMO total debarking of tree’s shouldn’t be required for an EF5 rating. We’ve had instance’s where tree’s remain nearly completely intact while experiences direct sustained winds of over 180MPH
TIV2 intercept from along time ago. I believe that in most case’s debarking is a result of debris loading.
This house from Diaz was the first thing hit after the tornado traveled through mostly open fields for a bit. Likely meaning debris loading wouldn’t play to much of a factor on the tree’s around the 190mph DI.
This is also observed with the bassfield 190mph DI.
Tree’s near a bunch of buildings or just, in towns always experience major debarking in a violent tornado.
This also makes the debarking in the country golf club from the Parkersburg EF5 all the more impressive. Likely little debris loading from those area’s.
 
tornado examiner said:
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My response to Marshall:
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1. "Typical nails"? WTF does that even mean? No pictures or description? Does he mean NORMAL nails? If straps are required for EF5 damage we're going to be searching for a long time. If a tornado's chances of hitting a structure built to his standards is next to zero then what the heck is even the point? EF5s just don't exist in the world and news until that happens?

2. He's referencing anchor bolts "missing", but doesn't acknowledged that they were ripped out of the ground or bent by the tornado, as evidenced by the HOLES IN THE CONCRETE where they were. Which makes his statement a half truth at best, and full blown misinformation at worst.

Why is this dude an authority on tornado damage again?
 
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