2025 Political Thread

[gangstonc]

Someone wrote a whole poem about that, in the style of Dr. Seuss (who the left says is racist)

I Will Not Eat Grilled Haitian Cat​

The town was dull white

And its voters rust-red.

Its churches were backward

And families male-led.



So virtuous strangers

Who lived far away

Behind iron gates

Shouted, “Anchors aweigh!”



They sent boats crammed with strangers

Of alien tongue,

And curious customs,

To make Springfield young!



Recruited from shanties

And sprung out of jail

Unschooled in the basics …

These guests couldn’t fail!



Because each would bring with him

Irrefutable claims

On Christian compassion

That served pagan aims.



They were loaded with tax funds,

And freebies and goodies

To enrich our poor Rust Belt

With machetes and hoodies.




The mayor and governor

And factory barons

Cashed fat checks and signed on,

And so did the Karens!



And O how those Karens

Clucked and crowed with delight

At the chance to rebuke,

And reprove, and indict!



They practice-wagged fingers

And rehearsed epic rants.

And carefully ironed

Their boss-lady pants.



Soon the town was enriched

With new dozens each day

Who spoke, lived, and ate

In a real different way.



O how thrilling and noble,

Exciting and sexy!

The poor love-starved Karens

Neared apoplexy.



We know change is good

And “different” is better,

While “diverse” is the best.

It’s the only strength-getter!



There was only one fly

In this virtuous ointment.

Just one turd in the punchbowl

That caused disappointment.



The town was still stuffed

With “legacy” people

Obsolete rednecks,

Deplorable sheeple.



They didn’t all vanish

Or turn into Haitians.

Some showed up at meetings

And voiced their impatience.



“These people are eating our cats,”

Some did say.

“And beheading our geese

In a most gruesome way.



“They’re cashing fat checks

And slaughtering pigs.

When we grew up here

Springfield was nothing like this.”



The mayor and the Karens

Soon swung into action.

They cancelled the meetings

To halt such detraction.



They “fact-checked” the bigots,

Shamed those who dissented

With cool threats of hellfire

Pope Francis had lent them.



“If you won’t sit mum

As we slowly replace you

We’ll use all our mojo

To quickly disgrace you.



“We’ll label you bigots

And haters and racists

Who in Britain see prison

Taking cells from the rapists.



“We’ll spy on your churches,

And ban you from banking.

You will see how your betters

Deliver a spanking.



“We’ll rig all your votes,

Toss your Orange Man in jail,

Or find crazies to shoot him

If our judges all fail.”



But the stalwarts of Springfield

Black, white, and brown

Wouldn’t be buffaloed

Out of their town.



They kept on complaining

And soon people listened.

Not everyone’s scared

Of being imprisoned.



Not all politicians

Are afraid to dodge bullets.

Not all pastors are Karens,

Not all voters are helots.



And soon a loud rumble

Arose through our land,

As the quiet and humble

Made a do-or-die stand.



From city and prairie

From suburb and farm

A gathering chorus

Sounded like an alarm.



It couldn’t be silenced

It couldn’t be muted

It couldn’t even

Be prosecuted.



Once the good folk of Springfield

Had spoken up for us,

The words just emerged

As a national chorus:



“We will not eat grilled Haitian cat,

We won’t take off that MAGA hat.

We won’t be throttled by your gag

And we won’t let you burn our flag.



“We will not let you trans our kids

Or mandate what good God forbids.

We won’t let you start World War III.

And we will keep our country free.”



The mayor and governors

Bought pastors and Karens,

Censors and spooks,

And cheap labor barons



Blustered and sputtered

Slandered and cancelled

… Then folded, and cowered

Once they saw they’d be trampled.



A free nation emerged

From those poor kitties’ ashes

Not haunted by traitors

Or Deep State assassins.



And that country now proudly

Stokes up its grill

With burgers and hot dogs:

A city on a hill.

Have you seen his drawings that contain the n-word?

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Have you seen his drawings that contain the n-word?

Nope

 

[gangstonc]

Nope

Then maybe you should do research before saying only crazy dems believe he is racist.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Then maybe you should do research before saying only crazy dems believe he is racist.

I could only find information about six books that were banned and in one of them he drew black people like apes, but where could these ideas have come from?

The gap will eventually be between civilized man “and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla” (201). Read that last line again if you missed it: Darwin’s theory claims that Africans and Australians are more closely related to apes than Europeans are.

The Dark Side of Darwinism | Philosophy for the Many

 

[gangstonc]

You’re an interesting cat. I don’t see how it’s ok for Seuss to draw black people like apes because of Charles Darwin.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

You’re an interesting cat. I don’t see how it’s ok for Seuss to draw black people like apes because of Charles Darwin.

I'm just saying that could have been the reason he did so. Things were different back then and we should not judge the past by the standards of the present. Bill Maher calls it presentism. If they wish to be consistent, Darwin should be cancelled too.

Interestingly enough, Michelle Obama read Dr Seuss in 2015. Today the left even wants to get rid of the Cat in the Hat.

The left sees racism in everything (coffee, math, objective thinking, capitalism, etc.), so much so that "racist" is becoming a meaningless term.

 

[gangstonc]

I'm just saying that could have been the reason he did so. Things were different back then and we should not judge the past by the standards of the present. Bill Maher calls it presentism. If they wish to be consistent, Darwin should be cancelled too.

Interestingly enough, Michelle Obama read Dr Seuss in 2015. Today the left even wants to get rid of the Cat in the Hat.

The left sees racism in everything (coffee, math, objective thinking, capitalism, etc.), so much so that "racist" is becoming a meaningless term.

Just curious, how far right on the spectrum do you see yourself?

 

[Evan]

I could only find information about six books that were banned and in one of them he drew black people like apes, but where could these ideas have come from?

The Dark Side of Darwinism | Philosophy for the Many

Darwin was wrong about plenty of things. What's your point? Darwin being wrong justifies racism?

It's not like we haven't mapped the human genome and the genomes off other primates:

Differences between human and chimpanzee genomes and their implications in gene expression, protein functions and biochemical properties of the two species - BMC Genomics

Chimpanzees are the closest living relatives of humans. The divergence between human and chimpanzee ancestors dates to approximately 6,5–7,5 million years ago. Genetic features distinguishing us from chimpanzees and making us humans are still of a great interest. After divergence of their...

bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com

There's really not that much genetic variation between different subgroups like race. At least not compared to the genetic variation found WITHIN those subgroups:

Understanding Human Genetic Variation - NIH Curriculum Supplement Series - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[Evan]

I'm just saying that could have been the reason he did so. Things were different back then and we should not judge the past by the standards of the present. Bill Maher calls it presentism. If they wish to be consistent, Darwin should be cancelled too.

Interestingly enough, Michelle Obama read Dr Seuss in 2015. Today the left even wants to get rid of the Cat in the Hat.

The left sees racism in everything (coffee, math, objective thinking, capitalism, etc.), so much so that "racist" is becoming a meaningless term.

Don't treat people on this forum like they are ignorant children or stupid fools.

Say what you mean. Massaging implications, or doing the "I'm just sayin'" act is quite insulting.

Some might even posit that it is a sign of cowardice. I'm not saying that. "I'm just saying" that people are saying that. Many people. A forum member here might have DMed me with tears in his eyes and said: "Sir, I think things were different back then. Oldshue used to send forum sliders into ban-land. He knew they were trolling. He didn't tolerate it."

I told that person, excuse me. You also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. Very fine people. The finest in the land. They were just trying to be consistent and cancel the true racists.

 

[KoD]

Just curious, how far right on the spectrum do you see yourself?

I second this question

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Just curious, how far right on the spectrum do you see yourself?

Pretty far right, as I watch Newsmax and read Dennis Prager. Definitely part of the religious right, as I look at websites like The Stream. My views would get me booed off of most college campuses today, even though they were much more common 25 years ago.

As Vivek Ramaswamy said, "Faith, patriotism, hard work, family. These things have disappeared. And that leaves a moral vacuum in its wake. And when you have a black hole that runs that deep, that is when the poison fills the void ... wokeism, transgenderism, climatism, globalism, depression, anxiety, drug usage"

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Darwin was wrong about plenty of things. What's your point? Darwin being wrong justifies racism?

It's not like we haven't mapped the human genome and the genomes off other primates:

Differences between human and chimpanzee genomes and their implications in gene expression, protein functions and biochemical properties of the two species - BMC Genomics

Chimpanzees are the closest living relatives of humans. The divergence between human and chimpanzee ancestors dates to approximately 6,5–7,5 million years ago. Genetic features distinguishing us from chimpanzees and making us humans are still of a great interest. After divergence of their...

bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com

There's really not that much genetic variation between different subgroups like race. At least not compared to the genetic variation found WITHIN those subgroups:

Understanding Human Genetic Variation - NIH Curriculum Supplement Series - NCBI Bookshelf

I'm not saying it justifies racism, but his ideas could have been influenced by Darwin and that could be one reason he drew black people like apes, as he wrote most of his books in the 1940s. That doesn't make it right. It just shifts the blame, which Democrats today love to do.

Slavery was practiced by all cultures throughout history, but today the schools portray America as if it were uniquely horrible and only focus on the negatives. They act as if slavery was invented in 1619 by white colonists and the indigenous people lived in perfect peace and kumbaya until the colonists arrived and committed the original sin. In reality, the tribes warred with each other and took over each other's land. The Aztecs sacrificed their children to their gods.

The reality is that the Judeo-Christian values in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were what led to the abolition of slavery. The ideas of justice and equality originally came from Christianity and led to great improvements in civilization until Karl Marx perverted those ideas.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Here's one of the images that got Dr. Seuss cancelled.



Do they really think that's going to make children discriminate against Chinese people or lead to another George Floyd?

In one article, it says "In recent years, however, Geisel has been targeted for imagery deemed stereotypical or out-of-date, including a 2014 scholarly work asserting that The Cat in the Hat is an elaborate mockery of black people". The Cat in the Hat was one of my favorite books as a kid. There's no way it made me more racist. Not once did it ever make me think of Black or White people.

Michelle Obama was perfectly happy to read The Cat in the Hat to children in 2015. What changed in 2021? One police brutality event in May 2020 when people were already losing their minds in midst of a pandemic. That's what put DEI, wokeness and white guilt on steroids?

 

[Mike S]

This "discussion" makes me wish the internet was never invented

 

[TH2002]

Since I can contribute nothing of value to the Dr. Seuss discussion, let me share my collection of military uniforms instead!

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

This poem will make some people cringe

The woke-minded snitches (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)​

By Victor J. Massad

Now, the Woke-minded snitches had power to bully
Anyone or thing with a reputation to sully.
With reasoning flawed and logic scattered,
Nothing mattered but traditional values shattered.
And because they were woke, all the woke-minded snitches
Were like race-crazed Salemites looking for witches.
Their goal was clear, destruction and degradation
of anything highly regarded in western civilization.
"Burn down the churches, they're racist it's clear!"
"along with the flag, the anthem, and anything people revere."
They pulled out their brushes, with bristles so broad
they painted Columbus, Jefferson and Washington as frauds.
"We won the election, with some smoke and mirrors,"
"We control Congress and White House, so bow down in terror."
The people, battered by media and woke political power
seeing decency cancelled, they grew weary and cowered.
Folks gave in to the woke-minded snitches again and again,
but it was never enough because being drunk with power was better than gin.
White privilege justified looting, based on woke morality.
And burning down cities was the mostly peaceful protest of police brutality.
To many the woke-mind snitches looked like Frankenstein teens
But the woke-minded partied like it was 1619.
Someone spotted a woke-minded snitch carrying a noose,
Who was it for? Why, none other than Dr. Seuss!
"He stands for hatred and bigotry," the snitch did cry
"Why who but a racist would with ham green eggs fry?"
"Seuss was clever and male and white and respected
So, trashing his name and burning his books is expected."
"Only woke-minded authors can write from now on,
Like a woman who uses a urinal or a man who wears a tampon."
"And though they be boring, lacking anything fanciful,
Children will read them because Dr. Seuss has been cancelled."

There were a few who lamented the good doctor's demise
But mostly people surrendered, to no one's surprise.
And if five hundred years from now Dr. Seuss is rediscovered
And someone wonders why he was not more loved
You can blame it on racism as the primary reason
The racism of Bolsheviks who lynched a man for all seasons.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

This video is OK, showing a Black person worshipping Satan and descending into hell, but Dr. Seuss is taboo

 

[Mike S]

This poem will make some people cringe

The woke-minded snitches (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)​

By Victor J. Massad

Now, the Woke-minded snitches had power to bully
Anyone or thing with a reputation to sully.
With reasoning flawed and logic scattered,
Nothing mattered but traditional values shattered.
And because they were woke, all the woke-minded snitches
Were like race-crazed Salemites looking for witches.
Their goal was clear, destruction and degradation
of anything highly regarded in western civilization.
"Burn down the churches, they're racist it's clear!"
"along with the flag, the anthem, and anything people revere."
They pulled out their brushes, with bristles so broad
they painted Columbus, Jefferson and Washington as frauds.
"We won the election, with some smoke and mirrors,"
"We control Congress and White House, so bow down in terror."
The people, battered by media and woke political power
seeing decency cancelled, they grew weary and cowered.
Folks gave in to the woke-minded snitches again and again,
but it was never enough because being drunk with power was better than gin.
White privilege justified looting, based on woke morality.
And burning down cities was the mostly peaceful protest of police brutality.
To many the woke-mind snitches looked like Frankenstein teens
But the woke-minded partied like it was 1619.
Someone spotted a woke-minded snitch carrying a noose,
Who was it for? Why, none other than Dr. Seuss!
"He stands for hatred and bigotry," the snitch did cry
"Why who but a racist would with ham green eggs fry?"
"Seuss was clever and male and white and respected
So, trashing his name and burning his books is expected."
"Only woke-minded authors can write from now on,
Like a woman who uses a urinal or a man who wears a tampon."
"And though they be boring, lacking anything fanciful,
Children will read them because Dr. Seuss has been cancelled."

There were a few who lamented the good doctor's demise
But mostly people surrendered, to no one's surprise.
And if five hundred years from now Dr. Seuss is rediscovered
And someone wonders why he was not more loved
You can blame it on racism as the primary reason
The racism of Bolsheviks who lynched a man for all seasons.

 

[Evan]

This poem will make some people cringe

The woke-minded snitches (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)​

By Victor J. Massad

Now, the Woke-minded snitches had power to bully
Anyone or thing with a reputation to sully.
With reasoning flawed and logic scattered,
Nothing mattered but traditional values shattered.
And because they were woke, all the woke-minded snitches
Were like race-crazed Salemites looking for witches.
Their goal was clear, destruction and degradation
of anything highly regarded in western civilization.
"Burn down the churches, they're racist it's clear!"
"along with the flag, the anthem, and anything people revere."
They pulled out their brushes, with bristles so broad
they painted Columbus, Jefferson and Washington as frauds.
"We won the election, with some smoke and mirrors,"
"We control Congress and White House, so bow down in terror."
The people, battered by media and woke political power
seeing decency cancelled, they grew weary and cowered.
Folks gave in to the woke-minded snitches again and again,
but it was never enough because being drunk with power was better than gin.
White privilege justified looting, based on woke morality.
And burning down cities was the mostly peaceful protest of police brutality.
To many the woke-mind snitches looked like Frankenstein teens
But the woke-minded partied like it was 1619.
Someone spotted a woke-minded snitch carrying a noose,
Who was it for? Why, none other than Dr. Seuss!
"He stands for hatred and bigotry," the snitch did cry
"Why who but a racist would with ham green eggs fry?"
"Seuss was clever and male and white and respected
So, trashing his name and burning his books is expected."
"Only woke-minded authors can write from now on,
Like a woman who uses a urinal or a man who wears a tampon."
"And though they be boring, lacking anything fanciful,
Children will read them because Dr. Seuss has been cancelled."

There were a few who lamented the good doctor's demise
But mostly people surrendered, to no one's surprise.
And if five hundred years from now Dr. Seuss is rediscovered
And someone wonders why he was not more loved
You can blame it on racism as the primary reason
The racism of Bolsheviks who lynched a man for all seasons.

Do you regularly smell burnt toast while posting? Just curious.

 

[maroonedinhsv]

This poem will make some people cringe

The woke-minded snitches (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)​

By Victor J. Massad

Now, the Woke-minded snitches had power to bully
Anyone or thing with a reputation to sully.
With reasoning flawed and logic scattered,
Nothing mattered but traditional values shattered.
And because they were woke, all the woke-minded snitches
Were like race-crazed Salemites looking for witches.
Their goal was clear, destruction and degradation
of anything highly regarded in western civilization.
"Burn down the churches, they're racist it's clear!"
"along with the flag, the anthem, and anything people revere."
They pulled out their brushes, with bristles so broad
they painted Columbus, Jefferson and Washington as frauds.
"We won the election, with some smoke and mirrors,"
"We control Congress and White House, so bow down in terror."
The people, battered by media and woke political power
seeing decency cancelled, they grew weary and cowered.
Folks gave in to the woke-minded snitches again and again,
but it was never enough because being drunk with power was better than gin.
White privilege justified looting, based on woke morality.
And burning down cities was the mostly peaceful protest of police brutality.
To many the woke-mind snitches looked like Frankenstein teens
But the woke-minded partied like it was 1619.
Someone spotted a woke-minded snitch carrying a noose,
Who was it for? Why, none other than Dr. Seuss!
"He stands for hatred and bigotry," the snitch did cry
"Why who but a racist would with ham green eggs fry?"
"Seuss was clever and male and white and respected
So, trashing his name and burning his books is expected."
"Only woke-minded authors can write from now on,
Like a woman who uses a urinal or a man who wears a tampon."
"And though they be boring, lacking anything fanciful,
Children will read them because Dr. Seuss has been cancelled."

There were a few who lamented the good doctor's demise
But mostly people surrendered, to no one's surprise.
And if five hundred years from now Dr. Seuss is rediscovered
And someone wonders why he was not more loved
You can blame it on racism as the primary reason
The racism of Bolsheviks who lynched a man for all seasons.

It definitely made me cringe. The meter was all over the place.