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Agree. Limits the ceiling compared to what models showed a few days agoGoing to be a messy warm sector and storm mode.
True but we could see at least more activity than yesterday/last evening perhaps.Agree. Limits the ceiling compared to what models showed a few days ago
Possible but I wouldn't be surprised if crapvection sticks its foot in today. SE TX events suffer from it a LOTTrue but we could see at least more activity than yesterday/last evening perhaps.
Oh yeah? Why does SE TX do thatPossible but I wouldn't be surprised if crapvection sticks its foot in today. SE TX events suffer from it a LOT
SE TX outbreaks are a bit harder to come by due to strong, moist air (evident in the sounding with 75/72) and with strong instability, and strong forcing, it usually set ups one or two organized cells and the rest are just mergerfests that never organise. Also note the lack of strong dry air (where your dew point parcel zinks out in the upper levels)Oh yeah? Why does SE TX do that
Hey now, no apologies for a great explanation. Appreciate itSE TX outbreaks are a bit harder to come by due to strong, moist air (evident in the sounding with 75/72) and with strong instability, and strong forcing, it usually set ups one or two organized cells and the rest are just mergerfests that never organise. Also note the lack of strong dry air (where your dew point parcel zinks out in the upper levels)
From my time lurking on the forum, Fred Gossage once said that you'd rather a setup with close temperatures and dews and have strong dry air in the upper levels allowing for maybe some easier organization in even a crowded environment. This was likely a partial factor in how 5/24/11 produced high end, violent tornadoes despite a lot of clustering settling on those cells.
If you had 85/66 with dry air, it's very less favorable for tornadoes unless your mesoscale stuff comes in. Today, we have a strong moist layer with not much dry air in the making, that will make it much harder for cells to drop tornadoes. Apologies for the long winded discussion lol
No problem! There is plenty of intricacies to forecasting days like these and i think sniffing the smaller, subtle details out really helps.Hey now, no apologies for a great explanation. Appreciate it
Very well said. Being so close to the coast, you’re going to have a heavily saturated profile more often than not. We saw what that did on 3/15 this year.SE TX outbreaks are a bit harder to come by due to strong, moist air (evident in the sounding with 75/72) and with strong instability, and strong forcing, it usually set ups one or two organized cells and the rest are just mergerfests that never organise. Also note the lack of strong dry air (where your dew point parcel zinks out in the upper levels)
From my time lurking on the forum, Fred Gossage once said that you'd rather a setup with close temperatures and dews and have strong dry air in the upper levels allowing for maybe some easier organization in even a crowded environment. This was likely a partial factor in how 5/24/11 produced high end, violent tornadoes despite a lot of clustering settling on those cells.
If you had 85/66 with dry air, it's very less favorable for tornadoes unless your mesoscale stuff comes in. Today, we have a strong moist layer with not much dry air in the making, that will make it much harder for cells to drop tornadoes. Apologies for the long winded discussion lol
Yeah now I get it. To much saturation.Very well said. Being so close to the coast, you’re going to have a heavily saturated profile more often than not. We saw what that did on 3/15 this year.
And there was also a bit of lacking dry air that day too. It didn't completely limit the day and some mesoscale factors probably compensated for the lack of dry air in that small corridor of supercells. That day did better then i expected looking back. Very deep moist layer and not much dry air yet still dropped two violent intensity tornadoes at least. Mesoscale must've compensated locallyVery well said. Being so close to the coast, you’re going to have a heavily saturated profile more often than not. We saw what that did on 3/15 this year.
Yeah, I think Southeast Texas and into Louisiana are your main areas for tornado potential.Recent models shift interest to here big time, so i actually do agree