Severe WX Severe Weather Threat June 6-14

[Jbop]

I might suggest someone making a new thread for picture/after-event threads. Will make it more manageable

 

[Grand Poo Bah]

Also, giving tornadoes an EF3 rating when they aren't one isn't a sign of a liberal office, it's a sign of an office that has no clue what they're doing when it comes to surveying. A lot of offices just slap half of the tornadoes in their region with an EF3 rating whether it was likely stronger or weaker. It's the safest rating there is. When an office rates a tornado with a 120 mph+ damage presentation the same as a tornado with 180 mph+, it's a failure of categorization.

 

[Kds86z]

 

[Jbop]

I located the tweet in question which was on page 36. The problem i noticed is that there was tons of twitter post's in where someone scrolling through the pages could maybe overlook a potential duplicate post. It's almost best to just fully eliminate twitter posts from the main thread and have a separate thread for the twitter posts. Per my recommendation earlier.

 

[Kds86z]

 

[buckeye05]

This was the most memorable outbreak in June that we have since 2014 undoubtedly. Just insane what happened last night.

Big disagree. Both June 2023 outbreaks (14-19 and 20-26) were more significant both in terms of impact, fatalities, and meteorological significance (EF2s and EF3s in Dixie in June is crazy). I think there’s just some recency bias because we haven’t had a big June outbreak in a little while.

 

[buckeye05]

Summoning @buckeye05 @TH2002. I agree with this statement. I could be fine with either HE EF3 or LE EF4 honestly. Theres a very reasonable possibility that there could be 2 violent ratings before we’re done with the outbreak.

I’d say EF4 is possible for the one home that had its floor platform removed leaving the basement exposed. We have no way of knowing whether it was nailed or bolted down via aerial photography, but this type of foundation and construction usually involves bolts. The extreme damage to vehicles and transmission towers lends good contextual support too.

 

[buckeye05]

Also, giving tornadoes an EF3 rating when they aren't one isn't a sign of a liberal office, it's a sign of an office that has no clue what they're doing when it comes to surveying. A lot of offices just slap half of the tornadoes in their region with an EF3 rating whether it was likely stronger or weaker. It's the safest rating there is. When an office rates a tornado with a 120 mph+ damage presentation the same as a tornado with 180 mph+, it's a failure of categorization.

What on earth are you complaining about now? It’s a standard procedure, not a “failure of categorization”. Using an EF3 as a placeholder is standard procedure and has been for a long time. Even Enid briefly had the EF3 placeholder at one point. The bottom line is you need a thorough survey before upgrading to a violent rating, and you can’t just jump the gun.

Honestly, it seems like you just default to complaining about the rating process from the get go no matter the circumstances, and I’m getting pretty sick of it. Sometimes it also seems like you’ve altered your language and behavior JUST enough to not be frequently lambasted by TalkWeather members on a regular basis, but low-key have held on to ignorant viewpoints and haven’t actually learned as much. Like seriously, this much time has gone by and you’re still complaining about a preliminary placeholder rating? Slender and I gave a pretty solid explanation of why people like you being constantly dismissive of standardized, science based surveying and wanting automatic violent ratings as soon as you see some empty foundations and contextual feats isn’t valid. But apparently you learned nothing. Dunning Kruger 101.

 

[Kds86z]