Severe WX Severe Weather Threat 3/14-3/16

[AJS]

At the very least I was expecting a mid range EF4 as the prelim rating. You rarely see a 190 MPH EF4 as a prelim EF4.

 

[UncleJuJu98]

Wasn't the last 190+ mph tornado we've had the Mayfield one?

 

[jiharris0220]

[PDF] Damage Survey of the June 12, 1899 New Richmond, Wisconsin Tornado

Engineers from the NIST and ASCE went back in time and conducted a damage survey of tornado damage in New Richmond, Wisconsin after the tornado of 1899. While officially rated F5, the highest damage found corresponded to a rating of high-end EF3 on the Enhanced Fujita Scale, with winds of approximately 165 MPH. The structures in the area were poorly built, with no anchor bolts present. The brick hotel that was leveled to its first floor, while it was a candidate for a low-end EF4 rating, engineers found it had been pummeled by debris from other structures, exacerbating the level of destruction. The hardwood trees could have been debarked by wind speeds as low as the EF2 range.

Meteorologist Ted Fujita dissented, but we decided he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

“engineers found it had been pummeled by debris from other structures”

I’m sorry for the language and ranty off topic comment I’m about to use here, but this is by far one of the most retarded mental gymnastics I’ve seen.

What do they mean? So I guess for a tornado to even have a chance of having a ef4 rating it needs to hit a structure in the middle of nowhere? Any tornado that goes through a high density area is simply capped at ef3 using this logic.

These doofuses are telling us that the complete decimation of that town was caused by mid level cat4 wind gust?

I thought the Jarrel and Joplin survey were IQ debilitating but wow, no wonder Fujita threw this survey to the trash, because that’s exactly what it is.

 

[AJS]

Wasn't the last 190+ mph tornado we've had the Mayfield one?

Nope. Rolling Fork.

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

At the very least I was expecting a mid range EF4 as the prelim rating. You rarely see a 190 MPH EF4 as a prelim EF4.

Wow, and no fatalities or injuries. People must have been paying close attention to the weather and being in rural areas.

 

[tornado examiner]

So they don’t need a QRT team to rate tornadoes above 165. Unless they got one…but that usually takes a few days.

It’s absurd that it’s that high preliminary.

Could it be EF5?
Probably not. But maybe…

 

[Shakespeare 2016]

“engineers found it had been pummeled by debris from other structures”

I’m sorry for the language and ranty off topic comment I’m about to use here, but this is by far one of the most retarded mental gymnastics I’ve seen.

What do they mean? So I guess for a tornado to even have a chance of having a ef4 rating it needs to hit a structure in the middle of nowhere? Any tornado that goes through a high density area is simply capped at ef3 using this logic.

These doofuses are telling us that the complete decimation of that town was caused by mid level cat4 wind gust?

I thought the Jarrel and Joplin survey were IQ debilitating but wow, no wonder Fujita threw this survey to the trash, because that’s exactly what it is.

You are absolutely right.

 

[joshoctober16]

Diaz Arkansas just casually prelim 190mph EF4 tornado wtf.

That’s insane

its to note that base on one paper every 190-200 MPH rated tornado would of likely been rated F5 on the old scale (can be seen here)

 

[UncleJuJu98]

So they don’t need a QRT team to rate tornadoes above 165. Unless they got one…but that usually takes a few days.

It’s absurd that it’s that high preliminary.

Could it be EF5?
Probably not. But maybe…

Id like to see the damage there prelim rating 190mph

 

[AJS]

So they don’t need a QRT team to rate tornadoes above 165. Unless they got one…but that usually takes a few days.

It’s absurd that it’s that high preliminary.

Could it be EF5?
Probably not. But maybe…

Anything can happen. It’ll be interesting seeing additional damage reports coming in.

 

[tornado examiner]

Id like to see the damage there prelim rating 190mph

 

[AJS]

I feel confident in saying that if they find damage that is worthy of being rated EF5, it will be rated as such.

 

[Tanner]

Gee, I'm starting to wonder if there is more to the damage than what we already saw. That tornado, based on the terrifying video as it was near Tuckerman, Arkansas, was clearly a violent grinder.

 

[Kds86z]

 

[Equus]

Not sure when the last time was that I saw 190 as an initial prelim. Clearly they were just as violent as they looked on radar

 

[tornado examiner]

Way to go NWS Little Rock. Good job not being conservative for once. LMFAO.

 

[Kds86z]

Gee, I'm starting to wonder if there is more to the damage than what we already saw. That tornado, based on the terrifying video as it was near Tuckerman, Arkansas, was clearly a violent grinder.

Oh dang I gotta it up

 

[UncleJuJu98]

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What qualifies as a ef5 indicator?

 

[Tanner]

It will be interesting to see the other

Can't recall if this was shared on here, but this lady on Facebook has a couple great videos of the Tuckerman, AR tornado last night. Listen to that roar! Reed Timmer shared it on his Facebook page, saying that the Bakersfield tornado was one of the loudest roars he's heard.

Here's the video I was referring to. Terrifying to say the least.

 

[tornado examiner]

What qualifies as a ef5 indicator?

Probably nothing. But that is one of the highest ever prelim ratings I think the only other time we’ve seen a prelim 190mph EF4 was the 2013 Moore tornado.