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November 19-21st severe threat

And now we wait for the MDs and WWs

Looks like they kept the ENH

DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1026 AM CST MON NOV 20 2023

VALID 201630Z - 211200Z


...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PARTS OF
EAST TEXAS INTO LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI...

..SUMMARY


TORNADOES (SOME STRONG), DAMAGING THUNDERSTORM WINDS, AND ISOLATED
LARGE HAIL ARE EXPECTED FROM THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS EAST TEXAS AND
PARTS OF LOUISIANA, THROUGH TONIGHT ACROSS THE DELTA REGION INTO
PORTIONS OF MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA.

...EAST TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND CENTRAL GULF
COAST...
A POSITIVELY TILTED UPPER TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS
WILL PROGRESS SLOWLY EASTWARD THROUGH THE PERIOD ACROSS THE LOWER
AND MID MS VALLEY, WHILE TRANSITIONING TO A CLOSED MID/UPPER-LEVEL
LOW. AT THE SURFACE, A WEAK LOW CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN/CENTRAL OK
THIS MORNING IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP ACROSS NORTHEAST TX AND TOWARDS
THE ARKLAMISS BY THIS EVENING. AN ASSOCIATED WARM FRONT WILL
CONTINUE TO LIFT/MIX NORTHWARD THROUGH TONIGHT ACROSS EAST TX INTO
THE LOWER MS VALLEY. A COLD FRONT ATTENDANT TO THE SURFACE LOW WILL
ALSO SWEEP EASTWARD OVER THESE REGIONS THROUGH THE PERIOD.

LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE RETURN IS ONGOING IN EARNEST THIS MORNING ACROSS
EAST TX INTO THE LOWER MS VALLEY, WITH AT LEAST LOW 60S SURFACE
DEWPOINTS BECOMING PREVALENT ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR ALONG AND SOUTH
OF THE DIFFUSE WARM FRONT. MOST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT MID TO
PERHAPS UPPER 60S SURFACE DEWPOINTS WILL BECOME MORE COMMON BY LATE
THIS AFTERNOON FROM FAR EAST TX INTO PARTS OF SOUTHERN/CENTRAL
LA/MS. LARGE-SCALE ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH
AND INCREASING LOW-LEVEL WARM ADVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH A GRADUALLY
STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY LOW-LEVEL JET WILL BOTH AID IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF SURFACE-BASED CONVECTION BY EARLY AFTERNOON. INITIAL
DEVELOPMENT WILL LIKELY EMANATE FROM BANDS OF ELEVATED LOW-LEVEL
WARM-ADVECTION DRIVEN SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS ONGOING ACROSS CENTRAL
INTO EAST TX.

RATHER STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR OF 50-60+ KT WILL EASILY SUPPORT
SUPERCELLS WITH THIS INITIAL ACTIVITY. AROUND 500-1250 J/KG OF
MLCAPE SHOULD ALSO BE PRESENT WITH CONTINUED DIURNAL HEATING OF THE
MOISTENING LOW-LEVEL AIRMASS, WHICH WILL SUPPORT SURFACE-BASED
THUNDERSTORMS AS THIS CONVECTION SPREADS INTO LA THIS AFTERNOON AND
EARLY EVENING. LARGE HAIL MAY BE A CONCERN WITH ANY SUPERCELL THAT
CAN BE SUSTAINED. BUT, THE TORNADO POTENTIAL IS EXPECTED TO
GRADUALLY INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM PARTS OF FAR EAST
TX INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL LA AND SOUTHERN/CENTRAL MS AS A SOUTHERLY
LOW-LEVEL JET STRENGTHENS TO AROUND 35-40 KT. FAVORABLE LOW-LEVEL
SHEAR AND THE BEST CHANCE FOR SEVERAL TORNADOES WILL LIKELY BE
MAXIMIZED ALONG/NEAR THE WARM FRONT THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT, WITH
AMPLE CURVATURE NOTED IN THE 0-1 KM LAYER FROM VARIOUS NAM/RAP
FORECAST HODOGRAPHS. NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE ENHANCED RISK,
WHICH STILL SEEMS TO CAPTURE THE BEST CORRIDOR OF STRONG TORNADO
POTENTIAL AND SCATTERED TO POSSIBLY NUMEROUS DAMAGING WIND GUSTS.

CELL MERGERS AND SOME UPSCALE GROWTH SEEMS LIKELY THIS EVENING AND
OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE LOWER MS VALLEY. LINE-EMBEDDED LOW-LEVEL
CIRCULATIONS SHOULD STILL POSE A THREAT FOR QLCS TORNADOES AS ONE OR
MORE CLUSTERS/LINES ADVANCES EASTWARD ACROSS MS AND WESTERN AL LATE
TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY MORNING IN A WEAKLY UNSTABLE BUT
STRONGLY SHEARED ENVIRONMENT.
 
Let’s not be fooled by the SPC not upgrading to MOD. Dixie doesnt play by the rules and doesn’t care what category is where, etc.
I think it's a good call, earlier this morning it looked real good by the continuing hrrr runs made it more messier than original, idk if that's just a issue with the HRRR like Clancy was talking about or what. Although now I'd rather watch radar trends and see how things go because we are getting close to the range were looking at each consecutive hrrr run is pointless.
 
I think it's a good call, earlier this morning it looked real good by the continuing hrrr runs made it more messier than original, idk if that's just a issue with the HRRR like Clancy was talking about or what. Although now I'd rather watch radar trends and see how things go because we are getting close to the range were looking at each consecutive hrrr run is pointless.
Well I dont doubt the SPC for one minute, I am just saying for people not be lulled into some of false “sense of security” and take today any less seriously just bc the SPC didn’t didn’t upgrade with the last update lol
 
Well I dont doubt the SPC for one minute, I am just saying for people not be lulled into some of false “sense of security” and take today any less seriously just bc the SPC didn’t didn’t upgrade with the last update lol
Well I say all of that for the 15z hrrr to go ham just now as it's coming out lol.
But exactly this threat will be pretty bad either way if it's enhanced or moderate.
 
I have a feeling if the HRRR runs stay consistent with what they've been at 15/16Z, we will see that upgrade at 20Z.
For real? Lol I didn't even realize they did afternoon updates lol. The 15/16z was a step forward in violence like some of the early morning runs but it feels like it's getting too late for a trigger pull on the moderate.
 
For real? Lol I didn't even realize they did afternoon updates lol. The 15/16z was a step forward in violence like some of the early morning runs but it feels like it's getting too late for a trigger pull on the moderate.

There are updates at 20Z (2 PM CST) and 00Z (6 PM CST).

Given storms aren't expected to really get going until around 22-23Z, a 20Z upgrade would be pretty late but still give a little bit of lead time. Although it shouldn't really affect anyone's preparations at that point, it would just signal increased confidence.
 
D2 has tornado probs extended eastward, including Columbus, GA.
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...SUMMARY...
A few tornadoes are possible across south Alabama and the Florida
Panhandle, mainly during the morning into the afternoon. The
potential for locally damaging winds and a couple brief tornadoes
will shift farther north and east Tuesday afternoon into early
morning Wednesday across most of Georgia, the Carolinas, and far
southern Virginia.

...Southeast States...
While the primary surface cyclone will become increasingly divorced
from the northeast Gulf Coast region on Tuesday, deep convection
will likely persist through the day within a confluent regime along
the composite front/large-scale convective outflow from D1. This
convection should initially affect parts of south AL and the FL
Panhandle and may regenerate during the day within any pockets of
modest diabatic surface heating. Instability will remain weak with
MLCAPE generally at or below 500 J/kg away from the immediate coast.
This should tend to limit storm intensity, but favorable
boundary-layer moisture and deep-layer shear will support the
potential for occasional supercell structures, continuing from late
D1 on Tuesday morning and lingering into the afternoon.

With time, further decoupling of large-scale ascent and very strong
low-level shear from the meager instability plume should yield more
of a low-probability tornado threat farther north and east in GA,
eventually spreading into parts of the Carolina/far south VA
Piedmont on Tuesday evening and night. However, given the minimal
surface-based instability across these regions, locally damaging
winds may be the main threat from lower-topped convection.

A separate area of isolated supercell potential may approach the
eastern NC coast early Wednesday morning where somewhat richer
moisture off the Atlantic might yield scant surface-based
instability. A relative uptick in the tornado/wind threat is
possible over eastern NC and the Outer Banks as this occurs, though
confidence is below average regarding evolution of the upper trough
and strength of large-scale ascent across this region during the
overnight period.
 
MD is out


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Mesoscale Discussion 2273
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1156 AM CST Mon Nov 20 2023

Areas affected...East/Southeast TX...Much of LA

Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely

Valid 201756Z - 202000Z

Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent

SUMMARY...A Tornado Watch is expected this afternoon from
east/southeast Texas into much of Louisiana, where the potential for
tornadoes, some of which could be strong, exists.

DISCUSSION...Recent surface analysis places a low over south-central
OK, with a cold front extending southward through central TX and
then more southwestward into the TX Hill Country. A warm front also
extends southeastward from this low to SHV, stretching more
east-southeastward from there across central LA into southwest MS.
Showers and isolated thunderstorms are ongoing within the warm
sector, supported by ample low-level moisture and warm-air advection
within the warm conveyor. Several attempts at more sustained
thunderstorm development have occurred farther west along the cold
front, but none have been successful thus far.

A somewhat complex convective scenario is expected to play out from
east/southeast TX into central LA this afternoon. Favorable
low-level moisture will continue to advect northward ahead of the
approaching cold front (and parent upper-level trough), contributing
to air mass destabilization. Southerly/southwesterly low-level flow
will increase this afternoon as well, strengthening low-level shear
within an environment that already has favorable deep-layer shear.
The result will be an environment supportive of supercells whenever
updrafts mature. This maturation may initially be stunted by limited
buoyancy, but continued low-level moisture advection should allow
for this limitation to be overcome by the late afternoon. A corridor
of moderate buoyancy is expected from east-central TX into central
LA.

Supercells capable of all severe hazards, including tornadoes are
anticipated. Shear profiles suggest the potential for a strong
tornado exists, particularly near the warm front, if a more discrete
mode can be maintained. Given this potential, a Tornado Watch will
be needed across portions of the area this afternoon.

..Mosier/Gleason.. 11/20/2023
 
From SHV a little while ago.

A few of our most reliable and rapidly updating high resolution model systems (e.g., HRRR and WoFS) are suggesting rotating supercell thunderstorms with potential for producing tornado may track across Deep East TX and Central LA this afternoon through early this evening.
 
MD is out


View attachment 22120

Mesoscale Discussion 2273
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1156 AM CST Mon Nov 20 2023

Areas affected...East/Southeast TX...Much of LA

Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely

Valid 201756Z - 202000Z

Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent

SUMMARY...A Tornado Watch is expected this afternoon from
east/southeast Texas into much of Louisiana, where the potential for
tornadoes, some of which could be strong, exists.

DISCUSSION...Recent surface analysis places a low over south-central
OK, with a cold front extending southward through central TX and
then more southwestward into the TX Hill Country. A warm front also
extends southeastward from this low to SHV, stretching more
east-southeastward from there across central LA into southwest MS.
Showers and isolated thunderstorms are ongoing within the warm
sector, supported by ample low-level moisture and warm-air advection
within the warm conveyor. Several attempts at more sustained
thunderstorm development have occurred farther west along the cold
front, but none have been successful thus far.

A somewhat complex convective scenario is expected to play out from
east/southeast TX into central LA this afternoon. Favorable
low-level moisture will continue to advect northward ahead of the
approaching cold front (and parent upper-level trough), contributing
to air mass destabilization. Southerly/southwesterly low-level flow
will increase this afternoon as well, strengthening low-level shear
within an environment that already has favorable deep-layer shear.
The result will be an environment supportive of supercells whenever
updrafts mature. This maturation may initially be stunted by limited
buoyancy, but continued low-level moisture advection should allow
for this limitation to be overcome by the late afternoon. A corridor
of moderate buoyancy is expected from east-central TX into central
LA.

Supercells capable of all severe hazards, including tornadoes are
anticipated. Shear profiles suggest the potential for a strong
tornado exists, particularly near the warm front, if a more discrete
mode can be maintained. Given this potential, a Tornado Watch will
be needed across portions of the area this afternoon.

..Mosier/Gleason.. 11/20/2023

Interesting the graphic does not display on the SPC MD page.
 
Matt at WTVA in our storm chasing chat with him: Moisture is over performing. Dewpoint are on average 4° higher throughout much of the north and 2/3 of Mississippi then anticipated by current HRRR
 
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