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Hurricane Hurricane Milton

Brice W said:
Reminds me of the face Matthew had that went floating around.
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Yeah, but the face of Matthew was creepier. When I first saw it on Twitter from Stu Ostro, I honestly thought it was fake.
 
Looks like the Hurricane Hunters are finishing up inside the storm for now? They're definitely still finding Cat 5 winds and pressures, but I think the 180-185 wasn't found again -- it'll probably stay at 165 at 11, I think, with pressure maybe 913 or so.
 
wx_guy said:
Looks like the Hurricane Hunters are finishing up inside the storm for now? They're definitely still finding Cat 5 winds and pressures, but I think the 180-185 wasn't found again -- it'll probably stay at 165 at 11, I think, with pressure maybe 913 or so.
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NOAA plane has finished, but Air Force Recon is still flying through.
 
Sidenote: I wish College Of DuPage would let you zoom in more on these Mesoscale Sectors
 
And definitely starting to get more lightning occurring on the eastern portion of the eyewall now
 
It's important to note that a landfall south of Tampa Bay does not mean Tampa Bay escapes storm surge. I posted this a few pages ago.

Landfall near Sarasota would still drive onshore flow and surge into Tampa Bay for several hours. They would escape the worst case scenario, but would still have at least 6-8 feet of surge. The farther south the storm tracks, the less onshore flow Tampa receives. But a landfall south of the bay does not relieve Tampa Bay of all surge effects, unless landfall is WAY south, in which case Tampa will experience mostly offshore winds.
 
lake.effect said:
It's important to note that a landfall south of Tampa Bay does not mean Tampa Bay escapes storm surge. I posted this a few pages ago.

Landfall near Sarasota would still drive onshore flow and surge into Tampa Bay for several hours. They would escape the worst case scenario, but would still have at least 6-8 feet of surge. The farther south the storm tracks, the less onshore flow Tampa receives. But a landfall south of the bay does not relieve Tampa Bay of all surge effects, unless landfall is WAY south, in which case Tampa will experience mostly offshore winds.
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Very true. And the "less surge" Tampa Bay might (if lucky) experience will still likely be record-breaking surge for the area.
 
10 PM. 160 MPH and 915 mb.
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WTNT44 KNHC 090242
TCDAT4

Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 PM CDT Tue Oct 08 2024

NOAA and Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft have been investigating
Milton again this evening, providing a number of center fixes,
flight-level wind data, dropsonde measurements, and other valuable
observations. Data from the aircraft confirmed that the hurricane
had regained category 5 intensity, with maximum winds near 145 kt
and the central pressure as low as 902 mb. More recent aircraft
observations showed that the central pressure had risen somewhat, so
the advisory intensity is adjusted slightly down, to 140 kt. This
is also consistent with the latest subjective Dvorak intensity
estimates from both TAFB and SAB.

Center fixes from the aircraft and satellite images indicate that
Milton's heading is gradually turning toward the left and the
initial motion estimate is now about 055/10 kt. The system is being
steered by the flow between a trough digging over the Gulf of Mexico
and a ridge near the Greater Antilles. Milton should move
northeastward on Wednesday with a slight increase in forward speed,
with the center of the hurricane reaching the Florida Gulf coast in
24 hours or so. Thereafter, the system should turn
east-northeastward to eastward and move over the southwestern
Atlantic off the southeast U.S. coast. The official track forecast
is very similar to the previous one, and is generally a little north
of the model trackers, but follows the actual model predicted
cyclone center locations. This is close to a blend of the latest
GFS and ECMWF model solutions. Again, it is critical to remember
that even at 24 hours out, it is still not possible to pinpoint an
an exact landfall location.

Milton is expected to maintain major hurricane strength while it
moves across the eastern Gulf of Mexico and approaches the west
coast of Florida. Although an expected increase in vertical wind
shear should cause some weakening, Milton is expected to still be an
extremely dangerous major hurricane when it reaches shore. Also,
the first stages of extratropical transition may be just underway as
Milton reaches the coast, which could impart some baroclinic energy
and slow the rate of weakening. The NHC intensity forecast is near
the upper side of the intensity model guidance. After Milton moves
over the Atlantic, the global models show the system becoming
embedded within a frontal zone, so the official forecast shows the
system becoming extratropical by 72 hours.

Milton's wind field is expected to grow considerably in size by the
time the center moves over Florida. In addition, a large region of
tropical storm and hurricane force winds could occur on the
northwest/back side of the storm since Milton will be interacting
with a frontal boundary and beginning extratropical transition.
Damaging winds, life-threatening storm surge, and heavy rainfall
will extend well outside the forecast cone. This is a very serious
situation and residents in Florida should closely follow orders from
their local emergency management officials. Evacuations and other
preparations should be completed tonight. Milton has the potential
to be one of the most destructive hurricanes on record for
west-central Florida.


Key Messages:

1. A large area of destructive storm surge, with highest inundations
of 10 ft or greater, is expected along a portion of the west-central
coast of the Florida Peninsula. If you are in the Storm Surge
Warning area, this is an extremely life-threatening situation, and
you should evacuate as soon as possible if ordered by local
officials. There will likely not be enough time to wait to leave on
Wednesday.

2. Devastating hurricane-force winds are expected along portions of
the west coast of Florida, where a Hurricane Warning is in effect.
Milton is forecast to remain a hurricane while it crosses the
Florida Peninsula and life-threatening hurricane-force winds,
especially in gusts, are expected to spread inland across the
peninsula. Preparations to protect life and property, including
being ready for long-duration power outages, should be rushed to
completion.

3. Heavy rainfall across the Florida Peninsula through Thursday
brings the risk of catastrophic and life-threatening flash and urban
flooding along with moderate to major river flooding, especially in
areas where coastal and inland flooding combine to increase the
overall flood threat.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 09/0300Z 23.4N 86.5W 140 KT 160 MPH
12H 09/1200Z 24.7N 85.3W 135 KT 155 MPH
24H 10/0000Z 26.5N 83.6W 115 KT 130 MPH
36H 10/1200Z 27.9N 81.4W 75 KT 85 MPH...INLAND
48H 11/0000Z 28.5N 78.8W 70 KT 80 MPH...OVER WATER
60H 11/1200Z 29.0N 75.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
72H 12/0000Z 29.4N 72.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
96H 13/0000Z 30.4N 65.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 14/0000Z 31.5N 57.9W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

$$
Forecaster Pasch
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I guess Milton is taking a breather for now. 160mph pressure 915mb. I don't know though if we've seen the last of a RI or not as it still has the loop current to track over.
 
TornadoFan said:
So is the shear not gonna affect it as much as we had hoped?
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Probably not at this point. Even though it will "weaken", it'll expand in size. I'm not sure using the word weaken is right wording to use for this situation.
 
JPWX said:
Probably not at this point. Even though it will "weaken", it'll expand in size. I'm not sure using the word weaken is right wording to use for this situation.
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im pretty sure when a hurricane is strong enough the outflow kind of stops the shear around it? i could of sworn i herd this before.
 
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